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City of Milton Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Julv 24,2007,T:OO PM
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Commission Members Present: Paul Hackman, Curtis Mills, Cary Schlenke, Paul Moore, George
RagsdaEe, Fred Edwards
Not Present: Bob Moheb
Meeting LeaderlCity Staff: Tom Wilson, Community Development Director
Mike Tuller, Asst. Mgr. Planning & Zoning
Randy Simes Planning Department
CONDITIONS AND STATEMENT OF BOARD
Chair Paul Moore read to attendees of meeting and introduced Board Members.
RULES AND PROCEDURES OF MEETING
Chair Paul Moore read to attendees of meeting the rules and procedures from the City ofMilton Zoning
Ordinance.
INVOCATION
Tbe invocation was led Chairman Paul Moore
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
ation
D Order
1 to MIX to develop a
a revised site plan submitted on
district to request and the request has been
amended to C-1. Also a concurrent variance
1s needed and therefore Staff is
recommending Deferral to allow proper
advertising )
3455 Morris Road
To rezone from AG-1 to A (Staff notes that
the site is cursently zoned A pursuant to
206-124 and therefore the rezan~ngpetition
R207-009 portion of the request is not
needed.) to develop a 9.500 square foot
Montessori School and a concurrent
variance to decrease the 20-foot landscape
strip to 10 feet along Webb Road
15386 Birmingham H\cy (SR 372) To
reqve3 a Use Permit for a landscaping
busmess (Article 19.4.27)to use an existing
1,200 sq. ft. home and a 500 sq. ft.barn and
develop a 3,750 sg. ft. barn. The applicant is
also requesting a 2 part concumt variance
to; Part I: Reduce the 50-foot buffer and
10-foot improvement setback to a 25 foot
buffer and 10-foot improvement setback
along the east and west property lines
(Article 12H.3.S.C.l.)Part 2: To reduce the
50-foot setback adjacent to AG-1
(Agricultural) to 30-feet along the east
property line (Article 19.4.27.B.3.)
R. FZ07-009
UPO7-002
YC07-006
C. W07-001
VC07-00.1
V1111. ADJOURN
CZIM
6/27/07
DRB 7/10/07
MCC 8116107
CZlM
6/27/07
DRB 7/10!07
MCC 8/16/07
Withdrawal
Approval
Conditional
Denial
Approval
Conditional
Approval
Conditionar
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
CHAIR PAUL MOORE
Called for public comment on any topic that was not being addressed by the formal agenda.
Rose Prestiani, 105 Providence Oaks Pointe, Milton, GA 30004 (Comment Not On Agenda)
Requested Planning Commission look into any potential environmental issues regarding proposed
new high school.
CBAKR PAUL MOORE called for motion to close public comment.
Motion and Second: Commission Member Curtis Mills moved to close public
comment. Commission Member Paul Hackman seconded the motion. Vote: 6-0.
Motion carried and public comment was closed.
CHm PAa MOORE called the first agenda item, Approval ofthe June 26,2007 meeting minutes.
Motion and Second: Chair Paul Moore made a motion to approve the June 26, 2007 Planning
Commission meeting minutes. Commission Member Fred Edwards seconded the motion. Vote:
6-0. Motion carried and minutes were approved.
CHAIR PAUL MOORE called the first Agenda Item, RZ07-005, VC07-002.
STAFF MIKE TUL,LER read the Petition.
Applicant, Jay Davis, 855 May£ield Road, Milton, GA 30004.
Representing Milton Medical Holdings.
Four acres in downtown Crabapple.
Currently home ofthe Dinsmore Farm.
* MIXED Use development (commercial and retail).
a Potential medical and dental occupants.
Five commercial buildings (15,000 sq. ft.of commercial space).
r Addressed specimen trees.
m Addressed traffic issues.
m Nine units will be residential units.
Residential looking character.
m Materials to be used from City's recommended materials list.
Addressed parking areas.
Sidewalks throughout for inner-connectivity.
Tried to transition in accordance with Crabapple" Plan.
Right hand turn lanes will be addressed.
Bringing city sewer, water, sidewalks, streets and cross-streets for traffic.
CHAIR PAUL MOORE called for public comment in support of RZ07-005:
Jack Damico, 735 Richmond Glen Drive, Milton, GA 30004 (Support),
Spoke in favor of rezoning application in conjunction with Crabapple Lane Use Plan.
Bruce Harris, 900 Mayfield Road, Milton, GA 30004 (Support).
Spoke in favor of rezoning application in conjunction with Crabapple Lane Use Plan.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
CHAIR PAUL MOORE caIled for public comment in opposition of RZO7-005:
Kim Horne, 415 Wade Glen Ct, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested PC not grant the rezoning application in conjunction with Crabapple Lane Use Plan.
Rose Prestianni, 105 Providence Oaks Pointe, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested PC not grant the rezoning application in conjunction with CrabappIe Lane Use Plan.
APPLICANT, JAY DAVIS
m Plan shows this is zoned for MIXED village commercial use on the front and residential on the
back.
* Have been in compliance with the Plan.
C W PAUL MOON3 called for a motion to close public comment
Motion and Second: Commission Member George Ragsdale made a motion to close
public comment. Commission Member Fred Edwards seconded the motion. Vote: 6-0.
Motion carried and public comment was closed.
COMMISSTON MF,MBER CURTIS MILLS
a Asked to allow the other two people who were there to speak in favor of the applicant to be able
to speak.
CHAJR PAUL MOOICE
m Advised that time was used up by applicant so they would have to vote to allow them to speak.
DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT ALLOWING ADDITIONAL TIME
FOR PUBLIC COMMENT-
Motion and Second: Commission Member Curtis Mills made a motion to allow two
additional speakers the opportunity to talk in support of applicant. Commission Member
Paul Hackman seconded the motion. Vote: 6-0. Motion carried.
L. B. Dinsmore, P.O. BOXA,, Milton, GA 30004 (Support).
Former owner of property and in favor of rezoning application in conjunction with Crabapple
Lane Use Plan.
Christine Young,12625 Charlotte Drive, Milton, GA (Support)
m Owner of property adjacent to subject property and spoke in favor of rezoning application in
conjunction with Crabapple Lane Use Plan.
Stan Sparrow, 875 Mayfield Road, Milton, GA 30004 (Support).
* Owner of property across Charlotte and spoke in favor of rezoning application in conjunction
with Crabapple Lane Use Plan.
Carol Lane, 14890 East Bluff Road, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested PC not grant the rezoning application in conjunction with Crabapple Lane Use Plan.
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Planning Commission
Regular MeeZing
Tuesday, July 21,2007
Michael Cotterman (for mother, Patricia Cotterman), 835 Mayfield Road, Milton, GA 30004
IOppose).
Requested PC not grant the rezoning application in conjunction with Crabapple Lane Use Plan.
CHAIR PAUL MOORE called for discussion and there was none.
Motion and Second: Commission Member Curtis Mills made a motion to close public
comment. Commission Member Paul Hackman seconded the motion. Vote: 6-0. Motion
carried and public comment closed.
QUESTIONS-COMMISSION MEMBERS AND APPLICANT AND OPPOS~ION.
COMMISSION MEMBER GEORGE RAGSIMLE
FuIton County approved some development not consistent with the original plan.
a Now nothing to be developed in the remaining parcels for either retail or ofice.
a Intent for community is for a development that is viable, esthetically .fits into the community and
addresses the traffic concerns.
Did see value ofthis project in the community.
DISCUSSION WITH COMMlNTT DEVELOPMENT ABOUT THE 100,QOO SQUARE FOOT
CAP.
STAFF TOM WILSON
Other than the 100,0150 cap, project is consistent or could be made to be consistent with the rest of
the comprehensive plan.
* This would not be true regarding the variance request.
APPLICANT JAY DAVIS
Cannot work with a 75 foot buffer on the western border of property.
Lose half the commercial and half or mote of the residential.
DISCUSSION WITH BOARD, APPLICANT AND STAFF ABOUT CAPS AND CONSISTENCY
REGARDING THIS PROJECT AND THE PLAN.
COMMISSION MEMBER CURTIS MILLS
Higher level of density than set our in the plan.
STAFF RANDY SIMES
Recent policies are what have been approved nearby.
a Polices have approved lower density.
Still meets conditions set out in Crabapple Plan which are 10,000 square feet per acre.
LENGTHY DISCUSSION WW CHAJR PAUL MOORE AND APPLIGm ABOUT
ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND POSSIBILITY OF ACQUISITION OF THE SUBJECT
LAWD AND AFFECT IT WOULD HAVE REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 14,2007
APPLICANT JAY DAVIS
Buying property regardless of decision.
Spent a great amount of money on property already.
Will have to develop it in some manner.
w Could add more residential but does not add to the Village --just adds a bunch of houses.
Village should be mixed -village of offices and residences both.
CHAIR PAUL MOORE
There is a significant value to cap that exists.
Policies, ordinances and Comprehensive Land Use Plan are what we have to create a viable look
for the community.
City Council had made some strong statements about the importance of retaining what the
policies, ordinances and caps that are in existence today.
w Closest thing to law that City has.
COMMISSION MEMBER CURTIS MILLS
Asked applicant how long he would wait to move forward with his plan if denied by City
Council.
APPLICANT JAY DAVIS
Will purchase property by middle of October in any event.
Trying to limit his losses and his parher's losses as much as possible by moving forwarding as
quickly as possible.
COMMISSION MEmER CARY SCHLENKE
Discussion with Applicant about configuration of the residential units in regards to parking and
driveways.
* Discussion with Applicant about the asbestos and lead.
Expense to remove asbestos and lead.
Rule for houses listed as historical sites.
Milton's policy for historic homes.
Concerns with exceeding the cap.
Difficult to make a decision until can see what is being built out already.
Other developers would be lining up and would want the cap raised for their property.
APPLICANT JAY DAVIS
m Environmental survey of entire property was done and it was found to be safe.
r Had specific lead and asbestos performed on both houses on property.
* Dinsmore Farm house had asbestos in ceiling and floors and lead in the paint.
Less expensive to build a replica than to fix problems.
TOM WILSON
Before a house can be demolished it must go before the Design Review Board.
No ordinance but Design Review Board would look at alternatives to demolition.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
CHAIR PAUL MOORE called for motion.
Motion and Second: Commission Member George Ragsdale made a motion to approve
the petition subject to the recommended conditions suggested by staff. Corn mission
Member Fred Edwards seconded the motion.
CHAIR CALLED FOR DISCUSSION PRIOR TO VOTE.
DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSION AND TOM WILSON ABOUT TME RECOMMENDED
CONDITIONS FOR MIXED USE.
COMlWSSION MEMBER CARY SCHLENKE
Asked Staff to read the Conditions.
Tom Wilson and Randy Simes read a11 the Conditions aloud for Commission and Audience
(pages 24-30) with following questions for Staff about the Conditions that were read and
about dealing with the main issue of the cap.
VOTE: (2-4). Two in favor and four opposed. Motion to approve the petition subject failed.
MOTION AND SECOND: Chair Paul Moore made a motion that the petition be denied.
Commission Member Paul Hackman seconded the motion. VOTE: (4-2). Four in favor and 2
opposed. The motion carried to deny the petition.
CJlMR PAUL MOORE
a Called the Next Agenda Item, RZ07-008 (The Milton Market)
STAFF MKF TULLER read the Petition.
STAFF TOM WILSON
Staff recommended deferral.
* Can proceed with the rezoning if desired.
Variances could be sought at a later time for the Board of Zoning Appeals.
a Had been properIy advertised.
Applicant Mark King, 240 Holcomb Hill Lane, Milton, GA 30004
* Project would preserve and insure the harmony and compatibility and character of the area.
* Maintain the rural character and country charm like it was in time past.
Commercial setting while maintaining what the comprehensive land use plan dictates.
a Want to have an old country store at the referenced site.
a Have made improvements to the site [referencing on site plan], including a road to
improve safety of the area on the comer of Hopewell and Thompson.
CHAIR PAUL MOORE
Called for public comment in opposition to the project.
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Phnning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
Kim Horne, 415 Wade Glen Court, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose)
* Requested denial by the PC of RZ07-008 (The Milton Market).
Carol Lane, 14890 East BluffRoad, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested denial by the PC of RZ07-008 (The Milton Market) referencing the City of Milton's
City Council adopting FuIton County's 2025 Comprehensive Land Use Plan on November 21,
2006.
Joan Bonilleti, 540 Kings Country Court, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested denial by the PC of RZ07-008 (The Milton Market).
Marcia O'Shaughnessy, 1135 Nix Road, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested denial by the PC of RZ07-008 (The Milton Market). Concerned with negotiating left
turn onto Hopewell Road.
Yvonda Goydich, 300 Coach House Lane, MiIton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested denial by the PC of R.207-008 (The Milton Market). Concerned with traffic issues.
Chair called for discussion or if Applicant wished to speak for remainder of time let.
APPLICANT MARK KtNG
Discussed traffic issues.
@ Line and site engineering had been performed.
Addressed parking areas.
Would be a country store and nothing more.
Hours 7 a.m.-4 p.m.
Plan to refurbish building and take back to look way it used to.
Bring it back to code.
CHAIR CALLED FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. THERE BEING NONJ3 CHAIR CALLED
FOR A MOTEOW TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMIENT.
MOTION AND SECOND: Commission Member Paul Hackman made a motion to
close public comment Commission Member Fred Edwards seconded the motion.
Vote: 6-0 in favor of closing public comment. Motion carried.
DISCUSSION WITH APPLICANT AND COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT LETTERS OF
SUPPORT, TRAFJ?IC,PARKING AREAS, DELIVERIES TO STORE.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
COMMISSION naEMBER FRED EDWARDS
* Concerned that it looked like Commission is approving a business license vs. a piece of property.
Want to avoid a spot-zoning situation for retail.
* Have to consider future and what happens if and when Applicant no longer has property.
DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT OPTIONS INCLUDING DEFERRAL.
STAFF TOM WILSON
Advised Commission that if denied it would not 'be coming before them again.
Variances are secondary to the use and if the use is denied, then they would be moot and no
reason to seek variances at later date.
MOTION AND SECOND: Commission Member Cary Schlenke made a motion to
deny petition. Seconded by Commission Member Curtis Mills.
CHklZC CALLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. THERE WAS NONE.
VOTE: 6-0 to deny petition. Motion carried.
CHMR PAUL MOORE called the first Agenda Item, RZ07-009, VC07-002, VC07-006 (Montessori
School).
STAFF MIKF, TULLER read the Petition.
Applicant David Shokosbi, 2145 Barnes Mil1 Road, Marietta, GA 30062
Wants to have a good educational academy in the area.
He and his wife are devoted to education.
Requesting support for a good international academy like the way they have in East Cobb
Architect and Professional Engineer were present to answer questions.
James R. Bagwell, 180 Tidwell Drive, Milton, GA 30004 (Support).
0 Support of RZ07-009, VC07-002 ;VC07-006 (Montessori School)
Provided history of the property included past owners and uses.
Chair called for discussion and there was none so called for a motion to close public comment.
MOTION AND SECOND: Commission Member Fred Edwards moved to close public
comment. Commission Member Paul Hackman seconded the motion.
VOTE: 6-0 in favor to close public comment. Motion carried.
cam CALLED FOR QZTESTIONSOR COMMEWS
COMMISSION MEMBER CURTIS MILLS
Concerns about a previous Montessori School in the Milton area that was not successful.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
James R. Bagwell
Background in taking over other schools and bringing them back.
Strong background in education is important.
Has been very successful due to his dedication, knowledge and education.
DISCUSSION WITH APPLICANT Am COMMISSION ABOUT PORTIONS OF SCHOOL
BUTLDING WOULD BE USED FOR DAYCARE= AND SCHOOL.
James R Bagwell
School will take children from infants to 6 years old.
After school problem will take children up until 12 years old.
Daycare will take children from infant until 3 years old.
4-5 years old will be at the Montessori Academy as a private school for education.
* 7,000 sq. feet for the daycare and 2,500 for administration.
Infants cost less
Academic more expensive for ages 3-6 years old.
After school program is after 6 years old.
COMMISSION MEMBER GEORGE RAGSDALE
* Parking need on south side of building.
Lot of land on front of the building so variance would not be needed.
* Donated a small portion of the land to the city to have lighting.
DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING AREA, LOCATION, SAFETY ASPECTS AND EXPENSE.
CHAIR PAUL MOO=
* Staff recommended approval for a portion and deniaI for a portion.
Could application move forward if they approved per Staffs recommendations.
J. C. Charkhian (Architect), 471 Barnsdale Drive, Marietta, GA 30068.
Asking for variance to create a larger playground In the back of the building for the children.
Total area for project is 3 acres.
* Building on 1 acre and retaining 2 acres.
DISCUSSION WIIX COMMISSION AND STAFT ABOUT THE DETENTION POND
LOCATION.
DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSION AND ARCHITTCT ABOUT CERTAIN AmAS
REFERENCmG 'IFIF STTE PLAN MAP.
COMMISSION MEMBER PAUL HACKMAN
Approval would be for all the land and not just the one acre.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
TOM WILSON
* Use permit would be for entire piece of property described by the legal description with this
rezoning.
COmSSION MEMBER CURTIS MILLS
Question about reduction in the landscape barrier from 20 to 10 feet.
J. C. CHARKFKIAN (ARCHITECT)
Want to keep the one acre for the school.
May need additional parking in the future for school.
COTk'lMISSTON MEMBER CARY SCHLENKE
Questions about location of detention pond.
Had other types of detention been considered for storm water?
Under parking area type to give additional space.
Concerns of having the detention pond next to playground.
a Question about an old two story building shown in photos presented to Commission.
J*c*CHARKHWV (ARCrnECT)
This was best location due to slope of property, this was the low spot.
Methods of keeping mosquitoes out.
COMMENT FROM PREVIOUS SPEAKER IN AUDIENCE ABOUT THI PREVIOUSLY
REFERENCED TWO STORY BmDTNG.
COMMISSION MEMBER GEORGE RAGSDALE
Asked applicant if he intended to tear down all the buildings currently on site.
J. C. CHARKHIAN (ARCHITECT3
Stated affirmatively that they had to remove all the oId materials.
CHAW PAUL MOORE
Like what purpose of property would be used for.
Believed some of the conditions imposed were self-imposed by wanting to preserve
a portion of the property for the future.
MOTION AND SECOND: Commission Member George Ragsdale moved to approve
the Use Permit subject to Staffs Recommended Conditions, but to deny the variance.
Commission Member Curtis Mills seconded the motion.
CHAIR PAUL MOORF,
That this be consistent with his concerns that the denial of the setback is consistent with the self-
imposed issues.
VOTE: for approval ofthe Use Permit subject to staffs recommended conditions (6-0) in
favor, but to deny the variance (6-0) in favor. Motion passed.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
CHAlER PAUL MOORE called the Next Agenda Item, UP07-001 (Use Permit) and a Conditional
Variance VC07-004 (North River Landscaping, LLC)
STAFF MIKE TULLER read the Petition.
APPLICANT MICHAEL BOLAN5
Seeking a use peranit.
Variances being requested because property is very narrow.
Reduce buffer of 50 feet to 25 feet.
No intention of becoming large company to increase traffic.
CHAIR PAWL MOORE
* Called for support and there was none.
Called for opposition.
Rose Prestianai, 105 Providence Oaks Pointe, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
a Requested PC deny UP07-001 (Use Permit) and a Conditional Variance VC07-004 (North River
Landscaping, LLC). Parcel does not meet existing standards of the Land Use Plan.
Marcia O'Shaghnessy, 1135 Nix Road, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested PC deny UP07-001 (Use Permit) and a Conditional Variance VC07-004 (North River
Landscaping, LLC). Issue with the public notice sign and stated it was not properly visible.
Kim Horne, 415 Wade Glen Court, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
Requested PC deny UP07-001 (Use Permit) and a ConditionaI Variance VC07-004 (North River
Landscaping, LLC). Parcel does not meet existing standards of Land Use Plan.
Carol Lane, 14890 East Bluff Road, Milton, GA 30004 (Oppose).
e Requested PC deny UP07-001 (Use Permit) and a Conditional Variance VC07-004 (North River
Landscaping, LLC). Stated narrow land is not a hardship.
APPLICANT MICWL BOLAND
Sent out 39 letters to aH the local neighbors for any questions or concerns.
Buffer reduction so as to not greatly limit their space.
Posted notice sign was done in accordance with City of Milton.
* Wants property to look like residential property, not industrial.
m Addressed parking.
Plantings.
CJ3AIR CALLED FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. THERE BEING NONE CHAIR CALLED
FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
Motion and Second: Commission Member Paul Hackman moved to close public
hearing. Commission Member Fred Edwards seconded the motion. VOTE: 6-0 to close
public hearing. Motion carried.
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Planning Corn mission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,1007
STAFF TOM WILSON
m Notice sign was properly and legally posted.
First sign is courtesy sip.
15 days before meeting a larger sign is posted.
DISCUSSION WITH APPLICANT, COMMISSION MEMBERS AND STAFF ABOUT SIGN
AND LOOKING AT PHOTOS IN SITE PLAN PACKAGE.
COWSSION MEMBER PAUL HACKMAN
Questions of Applicant about how many bedrooms in house.
* Questions about use of barn.
* Timeframe about selIing business in the future as business grows.
COMMISSJON mMBER GEORGE RAGSDALE
a Question about ownership of property.
APPLICANT MICHAEL BOW
Own the property.
* Three bedrooms in house.
Primarily ofice and storage.
Barn used for storage of equipment.
Not planning to grow business very large anytime soon.
Business primarily maintenance and fertilization and some installation.
No tractor-trailer coming to business.
Pick up plwtings on way to site.
m Two typical landscape trucks that are operated.
Have two typical crews.
Would like to see grow to 3-5 crews in the next 3-5 years.
FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT CREWS AND HOW THEY WOULD BE OPERATED AND
MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW LANDSCAPE BUSINESS WOUtD BE OPERATED.
COMMISSION MEMBER GEORGE RAGSDALE
Question ahout other landscape businesses on AG-I property.
STAFT TOM WSON
a All of the landscape businesses in area are on AG-1 property.
Some have been granted variances to reduce buffers.
Low intense use.
* Double planting buffas.
DISCUSSION WlTH APPLICANT AND COMSSTON ABOW NEED FOR TFIE VARIANCE
AND DISCUSSION ABOUT SEE AND LAYOUT OF PROPERTY REFERENCING SITE
PLAN.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
COMlMlSSlON MEMBER CARY SCHLENKE
Discussed email from n Clark Nickerson in opposition re~eivedconcerning the existing house and
barn sitting on steep hill overlooking private residences. [Read email aloud].
APPLICANT MICHAEL BObAND
Barn hard to see because of woods up front.
Barn would be in keeping with the Birmingham farm look.
Need for storage of equipment.
* Want property to look good as it speaks to their landscaping business.
COMMISSION MEMBER CARY SCHLENKE
Asked City Arborist Mark Law about double screening.
City Arborist Mark Law
* Need a good selection of planting materials that would not grow too wide.
More variety.
LENGTHY DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSION, APPLICANT AND ARBORTST ABOUT
BUFFER SCREENING MATE'RIAZS.
CHAIR PAUL MOORE
e Question as to whether Use Permit lives and dies with current land owner
STAFF TOM WFLSON
Goeswiththeland.
Land remains agricultural which allows residential use.
DISCTJSSION REFERENCING SITE PLAN AND LOCATION OF BARN AND EXISTING
VEGETATION.
COMMISSION CWIS MILLS
* Concerns about immediate neighbors and if they had objections.
APPLZCANT MICHAEL BOLAND
Reiterated 39 letters were sent out with his email and phone numbers and only 3 responses.
DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSION AND APPLICANT ABOUT TFIE POTTERS AND THEIR
ALLOWING AFFLTCANT THE USE OF THEIR LAND -REFERENCING FROM SITE PLAN.
COMMISSION MJ?,MBER CURTIS MILLS
Would have liked to have seen a letter from the Potters.
Questions for opposition regarding reasons for denial and asking them to reiterate same.
r Question for Tom Wilson about partial variance.
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Planning Commission
Regular Meeting
Tuesday, July 24,2007
STAFF TOM -SON
Probably modify the recommended conditions.
Go to City Council with Staffs recommendations to be consistent with the Commission.
Improvement setbacks are essentially to protect the root zone of the buffers.
DTSITUSSTON WFFH COMMSSION MEMBERS, STAJTF AND ARBORTST ABOUT BWFTTRS
AND VEGETATION.
MOTION AND SECOND: Commission Member George hgsdale moved to
approve the Use Permit and to alIow for the reduction of the eastern 50 foot
buffer only to the extent necessary for Ithe existing structure to remain, and to
reduce the western buffer from SO feet to 25 feet beginning at the right-of-way
and extending northward to the end of the cross tie wall, and hrther reducing the
western buffer to the extent necessmy for the existing barn to remain.
Commission Member Paul Hackman seconded the motion.
DISCUSSION ABOUT MOTION AlYD BUFFERS.
LENGTHY DISCUSSION AMONG COMMISSION MEMBERS ABOUT
REDUCTTON OF BUFFER VARIANCE.
VOTE: 6-0 to approve motion. Motion carried.
MOTION AND SECOND: Commission Member Curtis Mills moved to adjourn the
Meeting. Commission Member Fred Edwards seconded the motion.
VOTE: 6-0 in favor to adjourn meeting. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 1 1 :11 P.M.
~a"u1Moore, Chairman
Planning Commission
-city Clerk's office
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