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Home My WebLink AboutMinutes - BPC - 08-21-2008Minutes The Bicycle and Pedestrian Plan Citizen’s Advisory Committee Meeting Thursday, August 21, 2008, at 6:00 p.m. Committee Members in attendance Brian Maloney Bill Schellhorn Allan Tetley Mary Williams Milton Staff in attendance Sara Leaders Other Guests in attendance Jeff Domenick – NDS Local sales rep - NDS Agenda 1. Approval of the June 25, 2008 meeting minutes. 2. Gravelpave presentation and discussion – Jeff Domenick a. Test segment discussion b. Schedule for test segment 3. Trail Development Details Ordinance update 4. Funding – Allan Tetley 5. Additional Items 6. Public Comment 7. Adjournment City of Milton Bicycle & Pedestrian Meeting Minutes August 21, 2008 Page 2 Meeting Notes Gravelpave Presentation Jeff Domenick presented installation information and estimated costs: • Product is lined with Geogrid so no base is required for the product • Suggested using 89 stone that local Vulcan materials supplies • Gravelpave is going to have a much lower runoff coefficient than crusher run material • Water quality requirements • Estimate cost is $4.50 to $4.75 per square foot installed as estimated with Piedmont Landscape • Cost would be less using an 8’ wide trail rather than a 10’ wide trail • Grade would be excavated 2” to 3” and product and gravel material would be applied • The cost also included 2’ of backfill and grass on each side of the trail • Maximum cross slope of trail 5% and can go up to 8.33% if necessary • The cost did not account for some of the variable that trail sites may encompass o Drainage o Walls o Cut and fill dirt o Bridges • Committee suggestion to look a little closer at the 5 year plan and the grades and any installation problems that may be on these sections • Jeff Domenick suggested Piedmont Landscape as a contractor to install product • Committee suggested searching for a local Milton community contractor to provide installation • Business licenses search for Landscape type businesses Test segment discussion • City suggested using Canine Assistants on Francis Road – after visiting site on 8/22/08 this site would not work for the test segment • Not on section of 5 year plan • Total site is 800’ • Area of improvement is approx 400’ • Not centrally located • Where would residents park to try it out? • Would anyone even use this section? City of Milton Bicycle & Pedestrian Meeting Minutes August 21, 2008 Page 3 • Why not connect gravel roads? • Look at areas around Brittle, Summit, Redd Rds • Mary to measure some sections • NDS can provide material for 8’ wide at 150’ long • Other possible materials • Equestrian pavers – Brian to follow-up • Rubberized asphalt – Sara to follow-up • Crusher run – Sara to check with Alpharetta on cost • Could we consider a test location at Bell Park? • Schedule for test segment is dependent upon Committee’s decisions for locations Trail Development Details Ordinance • Council accepted document • Should be on the City website next week Funding • DNR grants may be available • Safe Routes to School grants for sidewalks within a 2 mile radius of a K-8 school • Corporate funding • City Grant Coordinator • This is the next major task of the committee • Mary can help write letters • Some Grants due this fall No Public Comment Additional Items • We would like to meet every 2 weeks for the next few months to make progress in initiating the Milton Trail, test segment, and working on Grants that are due this fall. • If anyone is looking at a crusher run material, look at sidewalk connection that City of Alpharetta installed along Cogburn Windward Pkwy • City to look at cost of this installation – Milton Herald article states it cost $7000 • Next Meeting – Thursday September 4 from 6-8 pm o Location: Chair Brian Maloney’s home o Address: 14420 Wood Road, Milton, GA o Brian’s cell phone number: 770-842-4936 _______________________________ _______________________ City of Milton Bicycle & Pedestrian Meeting Minutes August 21, 2008 Page 4 Next Actions • I would suggest that we select a test segment at the next meeting. If anyone has a specific suggestion, please be prepared to present at the next meeting. We have approx 150’ to work with from NDS. Please take pictures and do any measurements to support your selection. • Contact trail builders list from Mary and see if any are a possible fit for us • Look at the information and additional resources (including leads for funding) available at: o www.trailbuilders.org. o http://americantrails.org/http://www.americantrails.org/ • Video on installation of crusher-rock trails at www.enviroseal.com/ada.htm • Look closer at the 5 year plan and the grades and any installation problems that may be on these sections • Talk to Piedmont Landscape as a possible contractor to install product • Searching for a local Milton community contractor to provide installation • Business licenses search for Landscape type businesses • Any additional material type research Adjournment There being no further business, the Bike-Ped meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m. Date Approved:____________________ Approved By: Francesca Ivie Brian Maloney, Chair City Clerk's Office City of Milton Bicycle & Pedestrian Meeting Minutes August 21,2008 Page 4 Next Actions I would suggest that we select a test segment at the next meeting. If anyone has a specific suggestion, please be prepared to present at the next meeting. We have approx 150' to work with from NDS. Please take pictures and do any measurements to support your selection. Contact trail builders list hm Mary and see if any are a possible fit for us Look at the information and additionaI resources (including leads for funding) available at: o wwv.trai1builders.org. o htb: //americantrailssorg/ Video on installation of crusher-rock trails at .twww.enviroseal.com/ada.htm Look closer at the 5 year plan and the grades and any installation problems that may be on these sections Talk to Piedmont Landscape as a possible contractor to install product Searching for a local Milton community contractor to provide installation Business licenses search for Landscape type businesses Any additional material type research There being no further business, the Bfke-Ped meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m. Date Approved: