HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - CC - 11/20/2023Regular Meeting of the Milton City Council
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Jamison:
ROLL CALL
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk :
CM Verhoff:
City Clerk:
CM Cookerly:
Thank you. I would like to call the regular meeting of the Milton
City Council from Monday, November 20 , 2023 , to order. The city
strongly recommends that you review tonight's agenda carefully
and if you wish to speak on any item on the agenda then, please
bring your comment cards to the clerk as soon as possible. While
the Milton rules allow a speaker to turn their comment card up
until the clerk calls the agenda item , once the agenda item is called ,
no more comment cards can be accepted. Will the city clerk please
call the roll and make general announcements?
Good evening , Mayor and Council. Before I call roll this evening , I
would like to remind everyone in attendance to please silence all
cell phones at this time . Those attending the meeting who would
like to make a public comment, you are required to complete a
public comment card and submit it to the city clerk prior to the
agenda item being called. If the agenda item has been called then ,
no other comment cards will be accepted. All speakers , when
asked to the podium , will identify themselves with name , address ,
and organization before beginning their comment.
If y ou are representing an organization, a notarized affidavit is
required stating you have the authority to speak on behalf of that
organization. Please re view tonight's agenda and if you would like
to make a public comment, please bring your cards to me now.
Demonstration of any sort within the chamber is prohibited. Please
refrain from any applause, cheering , booing, outbursts , or dialogue
with any person speaking. Anyone in violation will be asked to
leave. Mayor and Council , as I call roll this evening , please
confirm your attendance , Mayor Peyton Jamieson.
Here .
Councilmember Andrea Verhoff.
Here.
Councilrnember Carol Cookerly .
Here.
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City Clerk :
CM Jacob us:
City Clerk:
CM Mohrig :
City Clerk :
Councilmember Jan Jacobus .
Present.
Councilmember Rick Morhig.
Here .
And for the record , Councilmember Paul Moore and
Councilmember Juliette Johnson our absent tonight. Mayor, you
have a quorum.
Mayor: Mayor Peyton Jamis o n present .
Councilmembers Present : C o uncilmember A ndrea Verhoff, Cou nc il member
Carol Co o ke rl y , Counci lmem b e r Jan C. Jacobus, a nd Counci lmember Rick
Mohrig.
Councilmember(s) Absent : Counci lmember Paul Moore, Councilmember
Ju li ette Jo hnson
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
City Clerk:
All:
Would everyone please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and
to the republic for which it stands , one nation under God ,
indivisib le, with liberty and justice for all.
APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk :
Mayor Jamison:
Next is the approval of the meeting agenda. Real quick , how many
public comment cards do we have , City Clerk.
Ten.
Ten, all right.
I'm sorry , 11.
All right. Eleven pub lic comment. With that , I will ask Council if
we can move reports and presentations Agenda Item 7 A to before
general public comment. And I would like to add an executi ve
session to discuss personnel , land acquisition , and potential
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CM Cookerly:
CM Jacobus:
Mayor Jamison:
Councilmembers:
Mayor Jamison:
Mayor Jamison:
City Attorney:
CM Cookerly:
CM Cookerly:
City Attorney :
CM Cookerly:
City Attorney :
litigation. Do I have a motion on that?
Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we move Agenda Item No. 7A up
before public comment and add an executive session.
Second .
Okay . I have a motion from Councilmember Cookerly and a
second from Councilmember Jacobus to approve the agenda item
as amended. All in favor , please say aye.
Aye.
Any opposed? That's unanimous.
With that , we will go straight into Agenda Item 7 A.
So , Mr. Mayor, forgive me for a point of order. You all just
approved the agenda. I really believe that the public hearing related
to that winery needs to be December 18 . That 's 9A.
Oh .
On the agenda? Okay.
Absolutely , yeah. It 's on the agenda and then , I know a lot of
people are going to be -
I can amend that. What number? Oh , here it is. Public Hearing A ,
I'll move it deferred until December 18?
That 's right and let me explain why. This is the public hearing
related to the winery. This is an application for the alcohol
component. I've received some input from staff. And I've got to
make a determination as to whether or not I believe this property
has the appropriate land use permissions to even have an alcohol
license . I have not made that decision yet. And I'm not going to be
in a position to make it until I receive some feedback from the
applicants themselves. There is some information that I need from
them to know whether or not I believe they have an entitlement to
operate a winery . I'm not saying they do. I'm not saying they
don 't. I'm saying I haven 't made that decision yet.
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CM Cookerly:
City Attorney:
Mayor Jamison:
CM Cookerly:
CM Jacobus:
Mayor Jamison:
Councilmembers:
Mayor Jamison :
And I need to make that decision before the Council even has the
right to vote on a winery. And so , I am requesting that 9A be
deferre d to 12/18. And that deferral needs to occur right now. This
will not be on the agenda this evening because it's not ready to be
on the agenda this evening as far as the actual public hearing. Now,
folks who are in the gallery and want to approach this council
during public comment to speak about this , they can do that. But
there will not be a public hearing on this. There will be a public
hearing on December 18 -again, forgive me , but assuming I'm
where I need to be with my conclusion because I want to get this
right.
Okay. Fair enough . I'm going to restate the agenda items to be
moved and then, I'll open up for a motion . Is that okay?
Yeah.
Okay. So, Council , I would like to move Agenda Item 7 A before
public comment. I would like to defer Agenda Item 9A to
December 18 council meeting. And I would like to add an
executive session to discuss personnel , land acquisition, and
potential litigation. And I'll open it for a motion .
Mr. Mayor, I move that we move 7 A Proclamation before public
comment. We also defer Public Hearing 9A to December 18 and
add an executive session for personnel , land acquisition , and legal.
Second.
Okay. I have a motion from Councilmember Cookerly and a
second from Councilmember Jacobis to approve the agenda as
amended. All in favor , please say aye .
Aye.
Any opposed? Okay. That's unanimous and we'll go into 7A.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Cookerly moved to approve the
Meeting Agenda with the following amendments:
• Move Reports and Presentations Item 7 A for the Proclamation
Recognizing Nothing Bundt Cakes on their 10 Year Anniversary of Serving
the Milton Community to precede Public Comment (General).
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• Add an Executive Session to discuss Land Acquisition, Potential Litigation ,
and Personnel.
Councilmember Jacobus seconded the motion. The motion passed {5-0).
Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember Moore were absent from
the meeting.
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The City Attorney advises Council that the Public Hearing Agenda Item
No. 23-204, relating to the winery, needs to be deferred to the December
18, 2024, meeting because this item is an application for the alcohol
component. The City Attorney received input, from staff, which requires
the City Attorney to make a determination as to whether or not he
believes this property has the appropriate land use permissions to have an
alcohol license. The City Attorney has not yet made that decision and he
is not in a position to make that decision yet until he receives some
feedback from the applicants that will help determine if they have an
entitlement to operate a winery. The City Attorney clarifies that he is not
saying that they do or do not, he just wants to clarify. He has not be able
to make this decision before the council has the right to vote on a winery.
Therefore, the City Attorney request that the Public Hearing Agenda Item
9A (Agenda# 23-304) be deferred to the December 18, 2023 meeting and
that deferral needs to occur on tonight's agenda. He clarifies that this
Agenda Item will not be on tonight's meeting because it is not ready to be
on the agenda for this evening, as far as the Public Hearing is concerned.
Public comment can be allowed for the participants in the audience
tonight, but it will be conducted under general public comment and not
under the Public Hearing portion of the agenda. There will be a Public
Hearing on December 18, 2024, assuming the City Attorney is where he
needs to be with his conclusion to ensure he gets a full understanding .
REVISED
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Cookerly moved to approve the
Meeting Agenda with the following amendments:
• Move Reports and Presentations Item 7 A for the Proclamation
Recognizing Nothing Bundt Cakes on their 10 Year Anniversary of Serving
the Milton Community to precede Public Comment (General).
• Defer Agenda Item No. 23-304 until the December 18, 2023 Regular City
Council Meeting.
• Add an Executive Session to discuss Land Acquisition, Potential Litigation,
and Personnel .
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Councilmember Jacobus seconded the motion. The motion passed (5-0).
Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember Moore were absent from
the meeting .
City Clerk:
City Attorney:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
Can I just confirm that the one comment for 304 , can I move that
to general?
Yeah. So, somebody was speaking on the public hearing? Yeah. If
they're here and if they want to speak about that topic during the
public comment, they can do that. They don't have to but if they
want to. But the y will have another opportunity on December 18 to
do the same. So , that 's up to them.
Okay. Thank you. Mayor , Item 7A. Bear with me. Juggle my
papers here. It 's a proclamation recognizing Nothing Bundt Cakes
on their 10 year anniversary of serving the Milton community.
Mayor Jamison?
Thank you. So , this is an absolute honor to recognize Gloria and
Sergio for all that you've done in our community. I've known them
for a very, very long time ever since you opened your business .
And I see the Chamber is here and everyone's here that has
supported you along the way . And so , it is an honor for me to read
this proclamation for you .
This is a proclamation celebrating the 10th anniversary of Milton's
Nothing Bundt Cakes. Whereas Nothing Bundt Cakes is a national
company with a down home feel with cakes handcrafted at local
bakeries. And whereas one of those bakeries is off of Winward
Parkway in Milton having been opened there in December 2013 by
co-owners Gloria Mattei and Sergio Pacheco. And whereas their
new Milton location was then the second Nothing Bundt Cakes
franchise in all of Georgia, meaning they had to introduce a whole
new concept and attract residents.
And whereas they did just that by building a strong , lo ya l, satisfied
customer base who for years have enjoyed and celebrated
countless special occasions with their customized cakes. And
whereas up to 20 emp lo yees during a given season work to make
this fun , valuable jobs that bolster the economy . And whereas for
Pacheco and Mattei have also immersed themselves and their
businesses in the Milton community. And whereas this includes
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PUBLIC COMMENT
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk :
involvement with schools , nonprofits, and Lion Heart Works , the
vocational training program for young adults with autism and other
neurodevelopmental differences.
And whereas Nothing Bundt Cakes represents the best of Milton's
business community in terms of the quality product it provides ,
stellar service it offers , and dedicated commitment to our area.
Now, therefore , we , the Mayor and the City Council of the City of
Milton celebrate the 10th anniversary of Milton's Nothing Bundt
Cakes franchise given under my hand and seal on the city of
Milton, Georgia, on this 20th day of November 2023. Can the
Chamber come up and Sergio and Gloria? We will take a picture
and celebrate your achievement.
Madam Clerk , next is general public comment. Do we have an y
public comment?
We do , Mayor.
Okay. So , the next item is general public comment. Public
comment is a time for citizens to share information with the Mayor
and the City Council and to provide input and opinions on any
matter that is not scheduled for its own public hearing during
today's meeting. Each citizen who chooses to participate in public
comment must complete a comment card and submit it to the City
Clerk prior to the agenda item being called. Please remember this
is not a time to engage the Mayor or members of the City Council
in conversation.
When your name is called , please come forward and speak into the
microphone stating your name and address for the record. You will
have five minutes for remarks. The city encourages you to review
the agenda. And if you wish to speak to bring your comment cards
to the city clerk right now. All right. If you'll please call the first
public comment.
Thank you , Mayor. Before I call my first public comment to the
podium, we do have one that has been received via e-mail and
complies with our code section. It's Lisa Calley at 14680
Freemanville Road. "I'm writing to express my strong concerns
regarding the proposed Mega Park on Hopewell Road. Choosing
this location would have detrimental effects on adjacent property
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City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
Pitts Carr:
owners , a valuable horse farm , and significantly worsened traffic
congestion in the area."
"Placing such a large scale facility in the heart of a residential area
would disrupt the peaceful li ves of residents. I urge the Council to
explore alternative locations , preferably in commercial areas that
would minimize the negati ve impact on residents daily li ves
despite the campaign , several councilmembers , and candidate
made promises regarding this park. With this in mind , I believe
there is no need to wait until 2024 to initiate discussion and a vote
on relocating the park. The current Council has the authority to
make this decision in a timely manner."
"I kindl y request that Council add the park 's relocation to the
agenda for the ne xt regular City Council meeting . This will allow
for a comprehensive discussion and a vote on the motion to
consider alternate sites. By addressing this matter promptly, we
can demonstrate our commitment to the concerns and desires of the
community. To maintain the rural nature of our community , I
proposed a different approach. Instead of one large park, let 's
consider establishing multipl e smaller , quaint parks throughout the
community ."
"This way , we can uphold our unique charm while ensuring that all
areas , especially District 3 with a significant population , recei ve
fair and equitable attention in terms of park development. I implore
the Council to carefully consider relocating the mega park to a
more suitable area that will help preserve the integrity of our
residential neighborhoods and better serve the needs of our
community . Thank you for your time and consideration." The ne xt
public comment I invite Mr. Pitts Carr to the podium , please .
Pitts Carr . I reside at 13515 Willow Bank Lane in Milford . Good to
go.
Yes , Sir.
Okay. My wife , Julie , and I recently learned of the plan by the city
to build a new multiple acre park adjacent to Hopewell Road very
near our home on Willow Bank Lane . To say that that is and was a
shock is a considerable understatement. Presently, there is a huge
park operated by the city of Alpharetta, 30 plus acres , one half a
mile away from the proposed new park. That seems to make no
sense to me . It's also a few hundred feet from the rear portion of
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Claire McGuffey:
our property. As I hope that you know that area of roadway is one
of the most densely traveled roads in this entire community.
It is under constant bombardment by automobiles, school buses ,
ambulances, and heavy commercial vehicles that rumble all day
and night on a constant basis . This appears to us to be a terrible
waste of city's resources and a terrible idea. It is inconceivable that
any possible rational basis for this boondoggle exist. Further, we
are already bombarded in our community by the incessant noise
coming from North Park. There is a seemingly endless supply of
ball games of every sort, particularly on the weekends. Other than
that , the park is virtually deserted five days out of seven .
So , I go ride my bicycle at the park and don't have to worry about
getting hit. It's just that I cannot imagine we're going to start
another park that big so close to the one that is already there. We
very much appreciate your service. We know that some of your
members are in compliance or support us on this. It is hard for us
to imagine that any of you would consider this given what it will
do to the further degrading of the pastoral environment of our
neighborhood. More noise, more traffic, more just about
everything that we don't need any more of. I thank you for your
time. [Inaudible] [00:18:09] questions if you have any .
Thank you, sir. Public comment is a time where speak to us and we
don't go back to you, but we'll probably make a comment towards
the end of public comment, so we appreciate it. Thank you . Would
you please call the next speaker?
Yes , Mayor. I invite Claire McGuffey to the podium please.
My name is Claire McGuffey. I have li ved at 901 North
Brookshire Parkway in Milton for 25 years . My family moved to
this area to be close to my daughter's barn where she boarded her
horse and trained. We chose this property because it was bordered
by a horse farm known as the Bates property and across the street
was Providence Park, which is a passive park. The area was quiet.
We could sit on our deck early in the morning and hear the horses
stabled at the barn on the Bates property.
Consider finding out that the property directly behind your
backyard was decided in secrecy by the city to be a mega sports
park with four baseball fields, three multipurpose fields ,
concession buildings , and a car lot large enough to hold four
hundred cars. Would you vote to put this in your backyard? No , of
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Tony Shepherd :
course not. We learned about this decision when we saw orange
tape marking our property line. Where's the transparency?
We later found out that the City Council, all of you, voted to buy
the property to put a mega sports park in place without even
wa lking the property, much less trying to understand the adverse
impact this would have on our community. I'm concerned about
the security as now it's public property and anyone can enter
anytime, day or night and walk into my yard. I'm concerned about
the light pollution, the noise pollution, and the traffic. We've heard
nothing about how the city plans to control any of these issues, nor
having even given a thought to the adverse impact this will have on
our property values.
Certainly, this will be the first domino to fall. If you know
anything about horses, you will understand that a training barn
cannot exist ne xt door to a sports park of any size. What do you
think is going to happen to the three or four horse farms adjacent to
the mega sports park location? They will sell and developers will
build more neighborhoods , which tum into more traffic and more
noise. This is the first domino and before long, Milton will no
longer have any horse farms . No longer will this be an equestrian
community.
For what? So more organized for profit, sports organizations can
grow and prosper? Why are for sports organizations supported by
the citizens of Milton? Why are these organizations more
important than the equestrian community? I ask that the City
Council correct the wrong of blindly following city staff
recommendation to purchase the Bates and Chandler properties . I
recommend selling the property to someone who will tum it into a
horse farm, thus avoid spending $15 million taxpayer dollars
designed for fund for profit sports organization. Thank you.
Thank yo u.
Tony Sheppard , I invite you to the podium please.
Good evening. Tony Shepherd, 710 Meadowbrook Lane. I've lived
in Milton before it was Milton. We moved here in 2003. And I've
even served on one of Milton's many boards that you have here
and. And when I heard about this situation with the park, it kind of
made me sick. My daughter has ridden horses for 20 years. We've
had horses in the area. We kept them at Yellow House right there
on Hopewell. We still even have a horse today on the property
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Mayor Jamison :
City Clerk:
Ben Leonard :
directly across the street where this proposed site is going. And the
more I think about it , I look up at our logo , we've got a horse on it.
We've got horse fencing on it and it kind of implies that's kind of
what we're after in our community. I think about the rural view
shed. When I look at the main roads in Milton, you look at
Birmingham, you look at Freemanville ,and you look at Hopewell
and you go down those roads and really what you see are horse
farms or farms. You don't see sports fields. You don't see that. You
see those things on the periphery of where we are. So, when I
thought about what could happen at a sports park , I'm thinking
about Wills Park in Alpharetta.
One of the things they do there, they shoot fireworks and that's one
of the absolute worst things that could ever happen at a park
around horses because horses and other animals are extremely
sensitive to that type of environment. So , we've got, I guess , since
2019 , I don't know, 200 plus acres of land have been purchased by
the city. And I wou ld just I think that there's more suitable areas
that we could look to put a . large park. As the previous speaker
mentioned, the amount of traffic that exists up on Hopewell now so
much so that we're having to put roundabouts , multiple
roundabouts on that road .
So , I would just ask that we either look at exploring extending our
agreement with Alpharetta to utilize their parks or ,as the previous
person said , the parks are largel y unused for five of the seven days.
Maybe explore that. But I would just ask that we get this on the
agenda, we have discussion about this, and you make a wise choice
and keep Milton's rural view sheds rural. Thank you.
Thank you. Please call the next speaker.
I invite Ben Leonard to the podium.
Ben Leonard , 1250 Hopewell Crest, Milton, Georgia. City
Council, thank you for hearing what I have to say today. I want to
start by pointing out five thing. And it's the five things that this
Council and the employees of the city swore to uphold by proxy .
Serve others , not ourselves . Treat resources with efficiency and
economy. Treat all people fairly. Use the power of our position for
the well-being of our constituents. And finally , create an
environment of honesty , openness , and integrity . And I know we 're
not supposed to engage in discourse.
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So , I'm going to say this very openly as an open-ended question.
But ask yourselves has this transaction been handled in accordance
with these five things ? And by the way, these five things were
what everybody swore to do as part of the City of Ethics A ward
this city was gi ven at the beginning of this year. I'm going to start
with the master plan that we're supposed to be following 2017. By
a three to one margin in multiple discussions with interested
citizens , they were more interested in walking trails than athletic
fields by three to one margin.
And in fact , there were more people by two to one margin that
supported not funding athletic fields than funding again 2017. This
is the plan we're supposed to be following . Park equity was a part
of the master plan. Park equity meaning geographic di vers ity . And
if you look at Page 61 of the master plan, it has a map of the city of
Milton. Every acti ve park if you bisect the city is in the lower third
to one half of the city. The upper third one half, the Northwest
Corridor , has a lot of nature space , no active parks.
Speaking of space , if we put in not one , but two because there's
also been a city purchase of seven acres off Bethany Bend Road
that's going to be used for an indoor facility , we will have six
active facilities in one square mile. Let's think about that. What is
that going to do for traffic ? What is that going to do for an already
over congested Hopewell Road and Bethany Bend Road? What's it
going to do for the traffic table we've already had to install just
outside of the traffic circle , which somebody just graced with their
bumper a few days ago I noticed ?
What's that gonna do to traffic ? What is that going to do to my
neighborhood for cut through traffic , which already suffers from a
great amount of that? You know the reason we don't know is
because when I re viewed the 1,500 plus pages of documents that I
received as part of the Freedom of Information Act request , there
were no traffic studies. You know what else there wasn't? There
was no groundwater studies. There's a dam that in 2005 a report
came out that it needed work. If the dam is breached , there will be
a significant loss of life.
This is the from the Corps of Engineers , and this is in your
documents. No studies have been done on shifting the water tables ,
which would happen if this land is developed. Speaking of water ,
this park is also adjacent to a former toxic waste site . That water
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Chris Hayes :
that flows through there also feeds groundwater wells , which then
feed the horse farms at the Hesters own, that Christy Hayes and her
family own . Not one study has been done to determine if that water
is safe, if riparian rights will be violated of the adjacent
homeowners , which would also violate Georgia law.
And most importantly , is that water going to be safe for the
children who are going to use these parks ? Finally , I want to point
something out. I just received these emails and , frankly, I was a
little stunned. I sent a letter on June 9 to the city making many of
these points and nobody reached out to me from the city , not one.
But shortly thereafter , comments were made. We have no
definitive plans. Yet the same day, June 9, one city employee , Tom
McKlveen , was emailing back and forth with the owner of a for
profit baseball tournament. He had already been out to the site. He
had already gotten schematics. And this had been going on for
weeks .
So , I asked you , all of you , are the five things I pointed out , have
they been adhered to? We've been through a bruising political
process , a bruising election. A lot of mud has flown. Does this
need to be added to it? Is this in accordance with the five things
that we here at the city have sworn to uphold? Thank you for your
time .
Thank you.
Mayor invite Chris Hayes to the podium , please .
Chris Hayes. I live at 13585 Hopewell Road. Good evening ,
Members of the City Council. As was previously addressed , we
lived directly across from the park that you're wanting to put this
mega park in at. The city purchased the athletic mega park without
consent of any of the folks that live around us. My wife has met
with the mayor , has met with several other councilmembers
individuall y . She 's spoken on the phone with many of you. Every
turn , we were told just to wait until these elections were over.
Well , they're over.
So , it's time to put up or shut up . And that's where we're at. The
property was bought and paid for and budgeted by this Council.
And if left unaddressed , we expect to see bulldozers before we see
an agenda item the way things have been going in the past. And we
want to address our concern. My wife and I bought our property
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almost seven years ago . We spent a significant amount of money
rebuilding an old horse farm and turned into something that we
dreamed about. We bought that property as is when most people
are going to buy as a development for $1 million and start it over.
One of the reasons that we left Alpharetta , which is where we li ved
for 1 7 years and we have a lot of dear friends there , was to escape
the overdevelopment, the overcrowding , the never ending traffic.
And we chose Milton for that same reason right there . Keep
Milton, Milton. What everybody on this Council swore to do , we
want to keep Milton , Milton . And those five agenda items that
were spoken about previously, I would adhere to that as well and
say you should look y ourself in the face and see if you're agreeing
to those five or you're honoring those fi ve principles.
At the November 13 work session , it was stated that the number
one goal of the Community Development Strategic Smart Plan
Land Initiative is to establish Milton as a location of choice for
equestrian hobbyi sts and preserve the farm lifestyle that
contributes to the city's unique sense of character. So , imagine our
surprise when we discovered that the city 's plan to build an athletic
complex on the horse property , we didn't even know was for sale ,
was never put on the market sits directl y across the street from our
property and next to another significant horse property right ne xt
door.
The planned comple x, even scaled down due to the
unsustainability of the land , will make our property and the
adjacent horse properties both unli vable and unsellable . The city
spent $4.5 million buy ing these properties . The 2017
Comprehensive Parks and Recreation Master Plan specifically
states that the site selection for a sports park , and let me be clear, is
preferably streets on four sides , three sides with school or
municipal use on the fourth side . The proposed park along
Hopewell Road on the Bates/Hudson property would have a single
entry point and exit point , single of an already congested Hopewell
Road.
If the original plan of the four lighted baseball fields and three
lighted football fields is scaled back , the usable acreage would
leave absolutel y no room for buffering the lights and noise for
adjacent neighbors along Hopewell Road in the Brook Shade
neighborhood and the Cooper Sandy Farms neighborhood. This
park would be an eyesore and would cause the demise of not onl y
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Rick Bach :
significant horse farms around the property , but the two adjoining
properties as well , all without any modification or property owner
input.
Not only am I here tonight to voice my opposition to the mega
park, I'm also here to point out the obvious disparity and hypocrisy
of how this Council operates. Let's start with the properties Milton
recently purchased with green space funds. During the City
Council work session on November 13 , when discussing green
space , the Mayor specifically said on three occasions how
important it was to communicate with residents that are going to be
affected by the green space so they can -they're aware of every
step in the process and they don't miss a meeting.
But the city can purchase land , build a minimum four lighted
baseball field , restrooms , maintenance buildings , parking for
hundreds of cars , and we're simply supposed to let that happen.
Unlike the continuing narrative that has been decided , there will be
a robust community involvement in this action. Almost a year has
passed , and other than residents alerting other residents about this
athletic park, most Milton citizens are still dark about the city 's
plans. I respectfully ask that you put the park to a vote. Either turn
the property into a passive park or sell the land and relocate the
park .
Thank you. Will you please call the next speaker?
I invite Rick Bach to the podium please.
My name is Rick Bach, 215 Oakhurst Leaf Drive, Brook Shade
development, across the street or very close to where the mega
Park is located. We moved to Milton in September of '99 before it
was even a city. And we're big advocates of supporting the city's
founding and looking at that horse logo right there. And when you
come after some very eloquent speakers , a lot of what I'm going to
say is going to be repetitious . But it's some notes that I jotted down
before I got here . So , 1.) I would agree that the purchase of the
property was made without certainly the majority or very few of
the people that li ve in the city of Milton being aware of it.
And living next to it , never traversing the property but knowing the
little walking trail that we have in Brook Shade , I have a concern
about the environmental impact of developing that property for a
mega sports park. And as a number of people has mentioned ,
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Mayor Jamison :
City Clerk:
Raymond Brooks:
Hopewell is heavily traveled in that area. And there are school
buses . There's also the heavy duty commercial vehicles that come
down that road. It was just done. The speed has picked up since all
that great work was done to improve Hopewell. But I will tell you
when we go up toward Bethany Bend or to the Publix, those big
trucks cross that yellow line.
And you'll see them coming around those comers at exceeding the
speed limit, and they're over that line. And as mentioned earlier,
that's a single entry point to what would be a mega park. And I
would consider that a very, very dangerous situation there. There's
a lot of dump trucks, 18 wheelers and, obviously, the school buses
that traverse that area. The sight lines are limited. I think that really
contributes to not just the amount of traffic that goes on that road
and the speed, but as you're going around those bins, the sight lines
are limited and you get a big truck that crosses that line and then,
you've got a mega sports park with all the kids, I consider that
extremely dangerous.
The noise that would exist as a result of the ball playing has been
mentioned by several of the other speakers here today. We can
hear the North Park football games when they're doing the
announcement. I just can't imagine what night games for baseball
and the like what that would be like for the neighborhood. And as
much as I look at the logo again with the horses, I feel for the
people that own the horse farms. The lights certainly would be
disruptive to whatever activity they're doing. And I would suspect
to some extent even be dangerous for the horses and the people
that are riding them.
So, the logo I think is important and I think that's what the people
that have spoken before me and what I'm asking you is to live up
to the logo and keep Milton as an equestrian, rural type community
and really not fall prey to the development that may occur as a
result of the mega park. Thanks for your time.
Thank you .
Raymond Brooks , I invite you to the podium.
Mayor, Members of the Council , I'm Raymond Brooks. I live at
2390 Sandy Creek Farm . I've been there with my horses for 32
years. We still have horses that people can actually view and
represent the emblem that's up there. I appreciate my neighbors
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Matt Rowenczak:
who were willing to come forward and speak in opposition to this.
The concern is twofold. One is how this process has gone through
without clear information to the residents involving them getting
our input, comments about how a park if a park is to be built , how
it could be built and be favorable balance between the local
neighborhood.
When I'm in the barn at 9:00 cleaning stalls and it's a weekend or a
Friday or Saturday night, I can give you the play by play football
that's going on in the Alpharetta Parks on the other side of our
property. So , I'm taking that and concerned about several
components of pollution. One is noise pollution, traffic pollution, if
you will, concerned about that. Neighbors have talked about
property values. I haven't heard anyone talk about the fact that at
least one third of this property is in the FEMA floodplain. And
within that floodplain is a significant amount of wetlands.
And there's a whole series of federal laws and issues about those
wetlands and what can and can't be done. And the plan that I saw
had a parking lot in the floodplain area that could greatly impact
that whole watershed going into the lake where there was the
pollution previously and everything. So , my concern is from an
environmental standpoint have we addressed those issues? There's
no sewer that I'm aware of for that facility. You're going to have
multiple ball fields, hundreds of people attending. So, you're going
to have to have restroom facilities, which will be on the septic
system that is the drain field is going to impact and pollute the
creek?
So, my concern is that besides all of the merits that the neighbors
talked about have we addressed the study. I'm a CPA by
profession. I'm a forester by degree , so I have some element to be
concerned about environmental issues. One of my clients is a very
well-known civil engineer in the area. When I showed him this
plan, he was shocked. He inquired of the city and they would not
provide him with any information about the plan, which gives me
great concern that is this being forthright with it. So, thank you for
my time and your service.
Thank you. Please call the next speaker.
Mayor, I invite Matt Rowenczak to the podium please.
Mayor, City Council. Matt Rowenczak , 3001 Victory Trace. And I
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wanted to bring some good news to Council tonight. This city and
its residents should be extremely proud of what they just
accomp lished. And that was the decision to run yo ur own
municipal elections. It was a waiving success. Let me share with
you some of the reasons why. When voters went to cast their
ballot, I believe the concept of wait times was non-existent on most
days. If there was a wait time, it was less than five minutes and
using the average processing time was also five minutes or less .
The level of excitement from vote rs to be able to personally mark
their choices and to see their selections on their ballot versus
staring at a QR code was also quite evident. When it came to
election night , you had the unofficial results that evening. And city
staff and volunteers have already proposed ideas on how to
increase the efficiency for the results to come in even sooner. The
level of transparency and openness conducted by city staff and
election workers on election night with the public was exceptional.
Before tabulation began , an explanation was given by Assistant
City Manager Stacy Inglis on how tabulation would be conducted.
I observed poll watchers feeling like they were part of the process
and not shunned. And they could ask questions if they arose. You
even have master students and PhD students from Auburn
University within their Election Management Department that
came and observed. The level of integrity implemented into the
process to always have more than one pair of eyes for verification
added to a level of accountability and security . When it comes to
cost , I will wait until the city publishes its final numbers , but I can't
envision a single scenario where the cost would be more than what
Fulton County woul d have charged you.
Not to mention what Fulton County will charge in the future and
the increased savings the city will have because of the first year's
cost. Secondly , having real stakeholders, your residents in the local
community, work this election also had a positive impact because
when folks had concerns or feedback, they got a much more
responsive time compared to temp workers who usually do not live
here. And lastly, I've never seen so much excitement from
residents in the community as a whole to be able to volunteer and
be part of this.
I personally witnessed one lady during training said that she felt
like she was a celebrity. And I do have to say one councilmember
not that long ago proposed that yo u go back to Fulton County. That
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Rahul Gupta:
was you, Miss Cookerly. Here's what you might have ended up
with if you did that. There were voters that were not listed on the
voter rolls when they showed up to vote this municipal election.
Some when they voted, the candidates didn't show up on the ballot.
Some had difficulty actually selecting their candidates on the
monitor.
The voter history file from early voting, whether it's accurate or
not , showed that people voted two, three , four, and five times. And
it is a disaster. Fulton County, despite their certification, they
cannot reconcile the list of voters who voted and the results. That's
why you may have seen they had a recount on Monday of last
week. And the results changed for some races, including the
candidates that ended up in a runoff. And one of the major
discrepancies was in early voting. So they recounted agam on
Tuesday and never told us why the changes occurred.
One candidate has already filed an election challenge due to these
changes. And I can go on and on and on. So, to summarize, I want
to thank those that are on the election feasibility committee ,
Councilmember Moore , Councilmember Mohrig. Thank you for
your leadership. And thank you for city staff, particularly Stacy
and Tammy, as well as Bernadette, and all those in the community
that really volunteered and stepped up . This is exactly what local
government collaboration with the community is supposed to look
like. So , thank you for all those that contributed very much.
Thank you. Can you please call the next speaker?
Mayor, I invite Raul Gupta to the podium please.
Good evening , Councilmen and women. How we doing? My name
is Rahul Gupta. I'm a proud citizen of the city of Milton, a business
owner, and an avid cyclist, not the one you see when you passed
on your way down the road here. I'm also the team director for the
Milton side of Team Nitro, which is a Georgia Cycling Association
team, which has grown tremendously over the last several years
where many of our residents ' children compete in mountain bike
races . I'm not here to ask for any kind of mega sports parks. And
we're not on the agenda.
We 're here to, hopefully, change that and put mountain bike trails
here in Milton on the agenda in the very near future. I have one
child at Milton High School , another one at Northwestern, soon to
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Mayor Jamison :
Rahul Gupta :
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Dave Thoman:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Holly Henderson:
be in Milton next year. Again, I just wanted to express my deep
interest in having sustainable mountain bike trails here in Milton
for the Council to consider. Cycling and mountain biking bonds
communities , encourages good health , it positively affects the lives
of children and adults in many, many ways. Mountain biking has
become ever increasingly popular, especially since COVID .
The growth in demand for it, as you see across the country , is
evident and very clear. Mountain biking is good for the citizens of
Milton , the health and mental well-being of children out in nature ,
and I think in the local economy as well. Hopefully , you guys can
consider that. We can be here again next time. I'll be here at every
single City Council meeting and , hopefully, push for that. Thank
you .
Mr. Gupta , will you state your address for the record ?
Yeah. I'm sorry . 550 Hickory Mill Lane , Milton.
Thank you. Do we have any other public comment?
I do , Mayor. I invite Dave Thoman to the podium.
Hi , my name is Dave Thoman. It's 910 Dunster Court. I'm in
support of Nitro and , basically, just to add a little bit to what Raul
said , I am the head coach for Milton High School Mountain Bike
Team Nitro. And for any future green space , I would like to also
put in that the future trails would be for walking. It would not be a
sports complex , but also for mountain biking. It's a growing sport.
We've gone from 700 kids in Georgia to 1,400 in the past 6 y ears .
So , having a place where our team could practice would be great to
have.
Other cities such as Woodstock have their trails . We currentl y
practice in Roswell at Big Creek. So , having something here local
for our team and also , as an open park would be great for the
community and would not be a sports complex but keep it as a
green space.
Great. Thank you .
Holly Henderson , I invite you to the podium.
Hi , Holly Henderson , 13485 Pro v idence Lake Dri ve . I, too ,
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
actually am here in support of Nitro , not as one of the coaches of
Nitro, but I'm a parent. My son is actually on the team. He's an
avid mountain biker. I, too , travel from very congested traffic from
Milton all the way to Roswell to take him three days a week and/or
other parks in other cities. One of the things that we want here is ,
again, as you've heard , not a mega park. It's something for us as
parents to take our children to.
Even if the kids around here have tons of organized sports, this is
one that not all kids that can participate in organized sports they
have the opportunity to be in mountain biking. It very much has
saved my child's life just so you know. We as parents want the best
for our kids post COVID and in the world of I won't go into social
media has really stunted our children's social skills , ability to go
outside to interact with the world. For me, my kid could not do
organized sports. He's actually in a learning disability school and
there are five members of that school that have joined in the last
year just to be part of this mountain biking club.
And the confidence that is brought to them, the mental health,
stability, the balance of being outside and not inside looking at
video games or terrorizing other people on social media has been
so amazing and has turned my family around. We want to stay on
the docket. We want to be part of 2024 planning. Just so you know,
I have another kid that rides horses. And very often, I'm part of
Milton. I love horses. They often are in the same place. So , we do
understand that there are some parts of the community that don't
particularly want mountain biking along with areas by horses.
I think we can all get along , especially if we use our common
space. But we would really like to just be considered on your
agenda moving forward. Thank you for your time.
Thank you.
Mayor , our final public comment is the public hearing item and I
will read that into tonight's record. It is Sandra Sheppard at 155
Gladwin Ridge Drive. And the comment is , "This address is in the
middle of neighborhoods with families and children. Milton has
grown over and above what many who moved here imagined. It's
no longer the peaceful area it once was . This business will bring
traffic , noise , and light throughout our neighborhoods." And
Mayor, that concludes general public comment.
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CONSENT AGENDA
City Clerk:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
CM Jacobus:
CM Verhoff:
Mayor Jamison :
Councilmembers:
Thank you so much. We will move on to the consent agenda. Will
City Clerk please sound the items?
The first Item A is approval of the November 6, 2023, regular City
Council meeting minutes . Agenda Item No. 23-299. Bis approval
of the November 13, 2023 , work session meeting minutes, Agenda
Item No. 23-300. C is approval of a services agreement with
Freeman's Tree Care, Inc. to provide tree removal services at
Milton City Park and Preserve and Bell Memorial Park , Agenda
Item No. 23-301. D is approval of a professional services
agreement between the city of Milton and Columbia Engineering
and Services, Inc., for on call land acquisition services for Public
Works Projects , Agenda Item No. 23-302.
Our final consent item E is approval of subdivision plats and
revisions, the developments Elva and Eduardo Flores at 13400 and
13420 Providence Road, Land Lot 961 and 962, District 2 , Section
2. It is a minor plat revision and the purpose of this flat is to move
the common property line between Track 1 and 2 to correct a
driveway encroachment, a total of 3.856 acres for the density of
0.52 lots per acre, Agenda Item No. 23-303 . Mayor?
Thank you. Do we have a motion on the consent agenda?
I make a motion to approve the consent agenda as read.
Second.
Okay. I have a motion from Councilmember Jacobus and a second
from Councilmember Verhoff to approve the consent agenda as
read. All in favor, please say aye.
Aye .
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Jacobus moved to approve the
Consent Agenda as read . Councilmember Verhoff seconded the motion.
The motion passed (5-0). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS
Mayor Jamison: Any opposed? That's unanimous. So , we'll move on to reports and
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City Clerk:
Greg Botelho :
presentations . Will the City Clerk please sound Agenda Item 7B?
Seven B is presentation on city of Milton earning a National Voice
of the People Award for Outstanding Civic Engagement. Our
communications director , Mr. Greg Botello .
Hello. This will be a fairly brief presentation, a happy presentation ,
not only because it's briefs , but also I think a presentation to help
put this in perspective because there's a lot of stuff, big issues ,
small issues to really take a step back and see how Milton
compares to places , not only around Georgia but around the
country . In this case , we were determined by international
organizations as one of the best around. And I'll explain because
we recentl y won something called the Voice of the People Award .
And what is the Voice of the People Award? Well , glad you asked.
It's the only nationally recognized award given to local
governments based on resident input. I'll talk a little about National
Community Survey . That's one of the inputs here . But it reflects
how a government creatively , effectively engages the publics and
uses citizens ' input to inform decisions. The winners are chosen by
Poll Co., which is a company that runs the National Community
Survey and a bunch of other things , including the National
Research Center and also the International City County
Management Association , which is much easier said as ICMA.
Just for context , this award was given out at the 109th Annual
Conference of ICMA. So , this is not a new entity. So , we've been
around for a while . And we compete against governments , city
governments and county governments of all sizes . So , I'll go into
that a little more. But probably one of the entries -we were
actually nominated for two categories , but one of the determining
factors is , again , how we compare to other communities. We had
the National Community Survey , which was last year 2022.
And just again , to put it in context , some of the highlights from
that compared to hundreds and hundreds of local governments
around the country , we were ranked in the 97 th percentile in
customer service by city employees , again , something we should
be proud of and 90 th percentile in confidence in city government.
There are a lot of other factors and other numbers that also kind of
are along those lines. So , again , it's a good thing and it does put us
in new context. So , in terms of this year's honorees , so there are 14
Voice of the People A ward honorees overall.
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As you can see from this map , they're from across the United
States , from Upstate New York to Southern California. There are
small communities and some big cities . We're in the same
categories as someone like Denver , Colorado or Scottsdale ,
Arizona. This was based off of not only that official nomination.
We were in two categories. The other one was public safety but
also in terms of the different initiatives and things like that and
thinking outside the box to try to get the word out on certain
things. And this was awarded at the ICMA conference in Austin ,
Texas in October.
Unfortunately , we couldn't make it here. So , that's why we're kind
of doing this today to kind of celebrate that way . So , this is a quote
that was in the press release from the CEO of the Poll Co.
company. "These amazing communities are national models for
taking on pernicious problems in government. It 's why the VOP
awards are so important. These organizations are making the
blueprint to better democrac y in an era of profound transition."
Again , this is not always easy. It's sometimes messy. But the fact
that we're being held up as a standard and we are certainly not
alone our challenges.
But I think we're trying hard. I get to tell you that. So , and I'm just
going to just really briefly touch on ways that we engage the
public. And again , this is not just my department , but there's a lot
of things. And it 's everything from newer technologies , from
leveraging technology with live polling , interactive maps, social
media. We do a lot of online surveys and other sorts of survey s.
We also have web pages , things like that. We also try to have kind
of old fashioned ones like having the public forums like some of
the green print forums we had.
And we had people wandering around the room looking the maps ,
adding their two cents in. That's very conscious. Also , you could
see some of these elections things that old fashioned signs, fliers ,
ads , guides , cards , things like that that people can actually tangibly
see. That's part of it, too. And also , as much as we can explaining
things in ways that people understand. A lot of times , government
just will throw up a big , fat packet of 700 pages of something and
ask people read through them. We try to actually make it so people
could digest it as much as we can and also having the opportunity
to share opinions like we saw tonight.
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Mayor Jamison:
Mayor Jamison::
City Clerk:
Scott Tkach:
That's part of the process and that's something we embrace. And
I'm going to segue to, I think, we won in one certain category that
exemplifies this as much as anyone else. And that's our public
works projects, especially our transportation. So, we were
nominated for public safety and also transformation and mobility,
which is a fancy way of recognizing how we go above and beyond
to connect with, acknowledge, and act on residents' concerns
related to how drivers, pedestrians, equestrians, and bicyclists get
around Milton.
You could very simply have these things at a Council meeting and
say, "Come on up and just tell me what you think." But we try to
go above and beyond. The last year or so alone, we have the
comprehensive transportation plan, which had all those things I
mentioned and more in terms of outreaching people in person. The
local road safety plan also had in person ads and things like that.
We had Cox Road intersections and then, the mobility component,
which is, basically, how people get around the Woodmore
Parkway at Highway 9, strategic master plan and also, a bunch of
other projects for TSPLOST, including the Bethany Bend and
Bethany Creek intersection improvements.
So again, we just wanted to recognize this and have this here. And
I also wanted to just invite my Public Works friends and also
Luxana from my team up for a little -since we didn't get a picture
in Austin, to actually have a little picture here. So,
Any questions real quick for Greg? Any questions? I'll tell you
what, you all did a fantastic job. Other mayors and elected officials
are really jealous of what we got here, so thank you.
Will the City Clerk please send the next item?
Mayor, that next item, C is the MS-4 permit annual stormwater
presentation given by our city engineer, Mr. Scott Tkach.
Good evening, Mayor and City Council. I'm Scott Tkach, your city
engineer. And I'm here this evening to provide an update on the
annual NPDS detection and elimination system, or NPDS
municipal separate storm sewer system or MS-4 permit. I want to
apologize in advance for all the acronyms I'm going to use this
evening. I wi ll provide an overview of the regulatory requirements
of the NPDS permit, what's in it, and how staff is meeting the
requirements of the permit, as well as the storm water management
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plan . This slide is an outline of what I'll talk about this evening.
The annual reporting is a requirement of the Environmental
Protection Division. And the Georgia State EPD issued
municipalities a new permit spanning 2023 through 2028. And
they issued that in early 2023. Staff completed a revision of the old
stormwater management plan with several new SOP's . They're
included as appendices detailing how inspections are done , how
plan review is conducted , those types of things. There was a lot of
work that went into that , and I want to give out to a gentleman ,
Josh Rogers , in Public Works that completed a lot of that work. It
was a tremendous effort.
Under the regulatory requirements , in 1972 , Congress passed the
Clean Water Act , which is what regulates the NPDS permit. And it
deals with the illicit discharges of industries , as well as municipal
storm water runoff. And fun fact , the Clean Water Act is 51 years
old this year. There are two types of permits , a general permit ,
which covers a large geographic area like a city or a county and
then , there are individual permits , which covers things like
wastewater treatment plants , manufacturing facilities , and other
types of municipal facilities.
It regulates stormwater conveyance systems that are owned and
operated by a city or a state . So , basically , pipes , catch basin ,
manholes, ditches , retention , detention ponds and water quality
treatment facilities. Under the new permit, the requirements that
we had to meet were the enhanced documentation of the standard
operating procedures , the pathogen or the bacterial indicator
species that we have to test for change from fecal coliform to E
coli. And we have to perform enhanced annual reviews and
documentation of the existing ordinances.
The Metropolitan North Georgia Water Planning District was put
together in 2001. And it was designed to be able to have a regional ,
long term , comprehensive water management program. And they
have at least one annual meeting , which we attend every year. And
I anticipate those will probably increase . Under the permit , there
are six minimum control measurements or MCMs that we have to
meet. And all MS-4 permit holders have to meet these MCMs. And
this city has implemented 35 best management practices , or BMPs'
to be able to meet those. Specifically, under the public education
and outreach that includes things like pamphlets.
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We have a website, a stormwater website, presentation to our
elected officials. Hence the reason I'm here before you this
evening. And then, a social media campaign effort. So, those
would be things like don't put grass clippings in the storm drains ,
don 't have the lease on the storm drains because of flooding. And
we work very closely with our communications director to be able
to put those out to the public. So , thank you, Greg , for those
efforts. Under the public participation and involvement, that is
things like the storm drain markers.
If you've seen those little stickers or placards that we have, we do
an annual stream clean up. We do adopt a road programs and pet
waste stations throughout the city. MCM-3 illicit discharge
detection and elimination , or IDDE , it's a fairly large lift for the
city. We had have the legal authority to have that , so ordinances or
end ordinance. We had to know where the outfalls were. So , we
have a map of that. We have an IDDE plan , an IDD education
program, and a complaint response SOP. Under MCM-4, that's the
construction site stuff, again , we had to have an ordinance for that.
We had to have SOPs on site plan review , site inspections,
enforcement procedures , a complaint response , and staff
certification. Community development predominantly implements
and manages that.
Under MCM-5 , we had to have post construction stormwater
runoff control. Again , we had to have an ordinance for that , an
inventory, inspection program , a maintenance program. We had to
have a green infrastructure LID program that included inventory ,
inspection , and maintenance. We also have an ordinance that deals
with that. Under MCM-6 , we have pollution prevention, good
housekeeping, and municipal operations. Public works manages
that, and that is a very big lift.
It includes things like DMS-4 , control and conveyance , inventory
and inspection , maintenance of those pieces of infrastructure ,
municipal street sweeping , employee training, waste disposal , new
flood management projects , which is predominantly handled by
community development , existing flood management projects.
That would be things like , for example , public works, retrofitted
the Fire Station 43 detention pond and put some settling basins in ,
which improve the water quality of that facility . We also had to
have municipal facility inventories and inspections . And Josh does
a lot of that work for Public Works. The city also has a revised
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stormwater management plan. As I previously indicated, it's a
fairly hefty document. It's about 50 pages.
In addition to the six minimum control measurements, as I had
mentioned that are managed through the 35 best management
practices, we also have an enforcement response plan as well as
requirements for water quality, monitoring of impaired waterways.
The Enforcement Response Plan details actions to be taken for
violations of the stormwater management plan. So, those are things
like the illicit discharge and detection and elimination system , soil
erosion, and sediment control , commercial on site stormwater
systems, as well as debris and waste control. And we have
environmental ordinances to deal with that.
Under the impaired waters , the city entered into a memorandum of
understanding with Fulton County in October of 2022 for the
county to conduct the stream water monitoring. So , that would be
LTI under the county's monitoring program. And they monitor
specifically for habitat and biological monitoring or bacteria. They
also take a look at macro invertebrate populations , which is water
insects , which are a great indicator species of water quality. They
look at fish samples, water quality testing, stream reach
assessments, and stream velocity profiles.
The city monitors Cooper Sandy Creek for total suspended solids.
Total suspended solids is just dirt that gets into the water column.
Some of the particulate size of the dirt will settle out with gravity.
Some are small enough that they don't and they will stay
suspended in the water column. It's called the Browning effect for
if you remember your boring chemistry classes. And in the last two
years, water quality testing for TSS has yielded a non-detect for
both the wet weather sampling and the dry weather sampling,
which indicates that the water quality of that health is improving.
So, the efforts of the city has shown some improvement.
Something new I'd like to bring to Council's attention is staffed
worked on the development of a linear transportation project
stormwater feasibility policy. The intent of that policy is to provide
a reasonable justification for not meeting stormwater, quality
treatment requirements and runoff reduction for capital
transportation projects where it's warranted . For example, this
would exempt projects like pavement preservation, so mill infills ,
or even reconstructions where we are not adding new impervious
areas .
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Mayor Jamison:
CM Cookerly:
Mayor Jamison:
The city of Milton is the second city in the state to submit a linear
transportation SOP and have it adopted and approved by the state.
So , kudos for staff for that. The next slide is a brief overview of the
10 criteria that would exempt a transportation project from meeting
these requirements. Under the major and infeasibility categories ,
we have payment management, project costs , roadside landscaping
and sidewalks , emergency safety projects , and a net decrease in
impervious area. Under the minor infeasibility category , that would
be impacts to environmentally sensitive areas , so things like
wetlands.
We're not going to go in and pave over a wetland. Cultural
community impacts that could be things like graveyards , site
limitations , those would be critical areas , so maybe steep slopes or
if we had a granite outcropping that would be cost prohibitive to be
able to put in a new road. Legal actions , that could be anything
from eminent domain to the city being sued. And then, a sheep
flow regime. Under that policy, our consultants are required to fill
out a form that the city has generated and it goes to the Public
Works director for her review. And then , she signs a justification
letter. And that goes into the project file.
And if we're audited , the state will take a look at that. And then
finally , I'd like to bring to Council's attention that staff has been
working on developing a stormwater improvement program similar
to what we've done with our transportation improvement program .
And the intent there is that we want to develop scopes of work ,
conceptual cost , scheduling for design , right of way and permitting
by phase , and identifying potential funding sources for the
projects. And this is a map that shows the major projects that we've
already identified.
And again , we're working on putting those scopes and costs
together. And I appreciate Council's time this evening. I know this
is dry material , so I tried to make it brief. And I would like to open
it up for any questions or comments .
Any questions for Scott?
I have a few .
Councilmember Cookerly.
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CM Cookerly:
Scott Tkach:
CM Cookerly:
Scott Tkach:
CM Cookerly:
Scott Tkach :
CM Cookerly :
Scott Tkach:
Mayor Jamison:
Scott Tkach:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Rob Dell Ross:
Scott , thank you for this. Very comprehensive. So , years ago , we
worked on ARC stormwater program, especially , drainage off the
roadways , etc. And we found that success is only as good as the
communication with the landscaping crews . And with so many of
them speaking Spanish, do we have a Spanish version and are we
meeting with all the different companies that do business within
Milton of the logo or the decal that you're going put out?
Mayor, Councilwoman Cookerly , I'm not aware that we meet with
them individually. I appreciate the comment. I think one of the
things that we can do is ensure that we have a bilingual element on
our website to be able to reach out to those people . The other thing
that we could do is revise our pamphlets . We have pamphlets at
City Hall. We pass those out at various public events. And we
could probably develop something that is bilingual.
Is there a fine for any company that is blowing all their leaves into
the drain?
There is an ability for the city to go out and write a civil violation
under the illicit discharge and the detection elimination system.
And I believe that we have issued warnings under that program.
And last but not least , I see that you've taken Cooper Sandy back
to its proper name.
Yes . I understand that there was some consternation about that , so
hopefully, I got that right.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Any other questions for Scott? Thank you, Scott. I appreciate it.
Great. Thank you , Council.
Okay. Will you please call the next item?
Mayor, item D is the discussion of the 2023 Comprehensive
Transportation Plan presented by our engineering project manager ,
Mr. Rob Dell Ross .
Good evening , Mayor and Council. Give me one second to pull
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this up. Thank you, Sammy. Good evening , everyone. This item is
an update for y ou on the status of our comprehensive
transportation plan. This is a very similar presentation to the one
you received at work session last month. The first half of the
presentation is a lot of the same data and a lot of the figures that
you've seen previously . Second half of the presentation is some
updated project lists and recommendations for funding along with
some policy recommendations .
We don't do plans in a vacuum. The two large plans that have been
adopted since our last comprehensive transportation plan in 2016
were the 2021 to 2025 strategic plan and the 2040 comprehensive
plan. Those two documents very strongly affected some of the
goals that we proposed in our comprehensive transportation plan
update. I'm not going to read every word on the slide , but you can
see those si x goals. Those will be important later on . Those are the
factors we used to score our recommended projects . This is a slide
from the strategic plan red arrows showing where we placed
emphasis and where we'll be able to check off some boxes as far as
things that we were asked to look at in the strategic plan.
You'll be getting some more information about this at our next
meeting in December. Sarah and I are planning a little bit more
comprehensive look at which strategic items we feel like we're
going to be able to check off. These next few slides map on the left
shows you a relative look at where traffic grew faster than what we
expected from 2016 and where traffic did not grow as fast as what
we expected in 2016 . You'll notice a little bit of a trend with the
red dots being towards the southern half of the city and the green
dots being towards the northern half of the city.
That, basically , represents traffic grew faster the farther south you
went. Project implementation chart on the right showed you our
progress and our ability to deliver TSLOS-1 projects. Not going to
go i.qto every single map on the page. This is some of our existing
conditions anal y sis we looked at in the plan looking at population
density. We looked at average delay per driver at the intersections
on the top right, a crash heat map on the bottom left, as well as a
look at zone trips made by walking in the bottom right. Public
input was a big lift on this effort .
We did many different things , newsletter, social media, several
surveys. We held four focus group meetings with volunteers from
the city focused on the Crabapple area, the Deerfield area , the
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[inaudible] [01:16:56] community and HOA leaders. We had
several in person intercepts. The picture on the right you see there
is at the farmers ' market several months ago . We were also at
Crabapple Fest. We were also at a Cambridge High School football
game last month. Several online surveys got a lot of input. I think
over 500 entries on our survey .
These next two pictures are a summary of some of the input we got
from that -some of the data we got from that input from residents .
Looking at our six goals from the beginning of their presentation,
ranking those six as far as which they thought were more important
than some others , as well as an analysis and exercise that we did
for them to take $1.00 or take $100.00 and decide of that funding ,
how they wanted to allocate it to specific types of projects. You 'll
see the two most popular there on that pie chart on the bottom
right.
We're improving intersections and improving infrastructure for
riding bicycles. Next two maps , top map on the left shows you
where residents were proposing projects and proposing
improvements , as well as on the right where those projects were as
far as if they were transit or more bike/ped focused. This slide is
really important. This directs what you're going to see in the
following slides. We had to make some assumptions for our
financial framework for our TSLOS-2 list.
So , this matches what this body approved in 2021. Level 1
represents the TSLOS-2 , which is the funding cycle we're in right
now that was passed and started collections in early 2022 and will
go through 2026. The recommendations from Fulton County and
the I don't want to call them rules , but the guidelines that the cities
have followed since TSLOS-1 was to take Tier 1 and program that
at 85% of the projected revenue that the economists predicted we
would receive over the next five y ears and Tier 2 being the
remaining 15%.
So , we were expecting over five years for TSLOS-2 would collect
$36 million in TSLOS with $30 .6 million being Tier 1 and $5.4
million being Tier 2. Fulton County also recommended to
programs and projects for Tier 3. We're showing that in Level 2 at
the bottom , but those would be projects that if we were to deliver
the entirety of Tier 1 and deliver the entirety of Tier 2, those would
be the projects we would move on to and look for. At this time and
to my knowledge , not a single city got to their Tier 3 in TSLOS-1 .
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We're not anticipating that happening , but we have a plan just in
case it will based on our track record TSLOS-1 , based on how our
revenue is coming in. We are confident that we'll be able to start
some of the Tier 2 projects just like we did in TSLOS-1. However,
it's uncertain that we'd be able to construct all of the Tier 2 projects
for TSLOS-2. This next slide shows you how that $30.6 million
and that $5.4 million are divided up into set asides and individual
line items.
The set asides are buckets or programs that we use to be a little bit
more flexible to meet the priorities that your guidance and our
residents ' guidance are telling us they want to see projects for. But
we need the flexibility to keep them a little bit more vague than an
individual project. So , for example , for Tier 1 $30.6 million, you'll
see $14.1 million in program set asides and $16.5 million in
indi vidual line items for projects. I'm not going to read the rest of
the numbers , but y ou can see how that math works.
How did we select projects? You've heard me talk about the
universe of projects before . This is every idea that we've ever
looked at in any plan to date as of today. We talked about the
previously planned project. We look at new projects based on
where our technical analysis is pushing us towards. We also
receive new projects from public input from you , from residents ,
from people that take our surveys. And we also have a small, not
discretionary , a small input from staff.
There may be something on our radar that we've heard about in
past meetings that aren't being necessarily included in the public
input, but we've heard them previously and we try to interject those
as well. How do we score those projects ? The goals you see on the
left of the screen, we took those six goals and we defined
measurable data and numbers . We're engineers. Of course, we like
numbers. We looked at , again, each of those goals. We tried to
narrow it down into something that we can score against, not that
scoring is 100% the reality. We always want to make sure that
we're not just onl y trusting the scoring.
We want a little bit of oversight from you and from the residents .
But we very much wanted to be data-driven in the analysis and in
this project list wanting to try and make sure that the projects that
are scoring well in these goals are part of our recommendations to
you. So , here's Level 1 short range draft project list. This is some
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projects that are already underway that we funded from 2021 up
until now, usually in the design phase. Some of this funding is
building some of those projects that have already started. Some of
this funding is starting new projects and finishing that as far as
construction goes .
So , you'll see a project list in a second with an associated map. But
you'll notice Level 1 short range. We're looking at approximately
$9 . 7 million of roadway corridor projects , little over $7 million of
intersection projects with a little under $4 million towards bike and
ped. These next two pictures are the maps of what we 're
recommending for Level 1. This , basically -and I'm going to jump
out of the presentation at this point and show you something that is
important. Most of you will remember this . This is the project list
that this body adopted in May of 2021 prior to the TSLOS
referendum.
So, you'll notice this is what was included in the intergovernmental
agreement with all the cities and Fulton County. So , you'll notice a
lot of these project descriptions were pretty vague. Intersection
efficiency improvements , intersection safety improvement s, local
road safety , community trail prioritization. What we're doing
tonight is proposing a modified version of the list you see on the
screen. We will , unless we receive any guidance to make further
changes tonight , you will see in December a revised version of this
document you have on the screen with these projects .
The map you see on the left and the right , the map on the left,
being that $30.6 million number that we talked about before and
the map on the right being the $5 .4 million number for Tier 2
making up the total $36 million. I'm going to pause on this page
for a couple of minutes because I anticipate there might be some
questions. This is the TSLOS-2 project list. This is everything that
we have already started that we plan to start design and plan to
build working through the funding that we will be receiving
through 2026 .
That does not mean we will have everything constructed by 2026 ,
but we will be making significant progress towards this entire list.
If are there any questions at this point before I move forward?
I have one please. So , knowing that the Crooked Creek exit
entrance on Highway 9 is with GDOT , I understand that. Are we
having to put any money aside for what looks like to be a future
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Rob Dell Ross :
CM Cookerly :
Rob Del Ross:
CM Cookerly:
Rob Dell Ross :
CM Cookerly :
Rob Dell Ross :
CM Mohrig:
CM Cookerly :
CM Jacobus :
cluster?
So , we've put aside -Project R3 on the right if I can pull up my
cursor right here , we have identified a project for State Route 9
streetscape enhancements at $2 million . We've discussed with you
in the past efforts by staff to enhance what they're building. We've
talked about -with the design review board last year, we talked
about options for looking at the walls that they're going to be
building.
No , it was reall y just mobility , not really the esthetics because you
have to go right to go left and you have to go pretty far to swing
back.
The last design I saw for Crooked Creek , actually , has a medium
break at Crooked Creek , but there is not a traffic signal there. So ,
you 're still going to be able to left.
There's no signal. There's no roundabout, right?
Correct. There's not a traffic signal. There is not around about, but
you'll still be able to make lefts in and you'll still be able to make
lefts out.
Yeah , I understand that.
Thankfully , we 're only going to be able to go right.
Yeah. They changed it from the year before.
To be continued. Thank you.
But I do have a question about the $2 million. And I wonder
whether that's really sufficient to do what needs to be done on 9
after the state comes through and demolishes the whole area. My
concern is , and I think you and I chatted just briefly about the cost
of doing the wall work , which is a large chunk of that $2 million ,
mine is going back and planting trees and taking some of the areas
where they're going to remo ve a road like in Bethany. So , we'll be
able to put some sort of pocket and do something there. I'm not
sure that what's left is going to be sufficient to be able to do that.
So , my ask would be that we take a deeper dive into that and see if
there's funds that we can shift some way so that when 9 gets going ,
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Steve Krokoff:
CM Jacobus:
Steven Krokoff:
Rob Dell Ross :
Steven Krokoff:
CM Jacobus :
Rob Dell Ross:
we're ready with a plan that's a little bit more comprehensive , but
also allows for us -they're going to remove almost every tree
along 9. So , for us to come back and do it right is going to take , in
my opinion , a chunk of change.
Following our last meeting , Councilmember Jacobus , I approached
both Public Works and Community Development to discuss a
comprehensive approach , not just the walls , but a comprehensive
approach from city line to city line that will include trees , lighting ,
everything that we've discussed in the past. We may be coming
before you with the potential for a consultant. We spoke with the
consultant that initially worked with Alpharetta on their Highway 9
area. So , they're working through that now to see what that can
look like and I anticipate something would be before you in the
next couple of months .
So , we'll still have the opportunity to shift funds at that point? It
won't be too late type of deal ?
You always have the ability to shift funds through your capital
program.
I'll look at what Steve just said. The numbers you see on the screen
are estimates at this point. They are not there - you shouldn't be
thinking for Project R3 , "I cannot spend more than $2 million."
But there are budgets and there's something that as we go through
each of these processes and we talk about options , obviously, we 're
going to want to be keeping the budget in mind and show you
options that wouldn't be say double your budget.
Nor would they likely be TSLOS dollars . They'd be coming out of
other buckets.
Thank you.
Other questions before I move on? So , again , TSPLOST -2 ,
everything that we will be building in the next five years , projects
on the screen. Level 2, this is the next five years. Som what types
of projects are we going to be looking for if the cities in Fulton
County decide to renew TSPLOST. So, 2026 and future are kind of
that second five year window. We're looking at $22 million of
projects , again , roughly $8 million [inaudible] [01:30:15)
corridors , a little more than $8 million in intersections , and about
$6 million in bike/ped. Those adding up with the program set
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asides to get us to the $38 million that we project in the next 5 year
window.
The maps you see on the screen left being the remaining 15% that
what were to happen 100 to 115% of collections from TSPLOST-
2. Those would be the projects we'd be looking at. Le vel 2 , Tier 3
and then , the remaining 85 % is the map on the right. The next slide
are the projects that correspond to those maps. And last but not
least , we took a stab. We did not completely flush out this project
list yet, but this is a long range plan. This is what year 11 to year
20 could potentially look like , again , if the cities and county chose
to renew TSPLOST projects that we'd be looking at towards that
long range plan.
These are the set asides the program buckets that go with the
projects that get us to the total $36 million for TSPLOST -2 , that
get us to the total of $38 million for TSPLOST -3. So , you'll notice
the cursor you can see on my screen. That's our magic number for
TSPLOST-2 that $36 million. It includes $500 ,000.00 in
technology and signal upgrades that we're talking to public safety
about , another $800 ,000 .00 in planning response , $500 ,000.00 in
sidewalk gaps , $7 million towards resurfacing and pavement,
$700 ,000.00 for guard rail improvements , $5 million towards
bridges.
That's likely a bridge replacement that will be advancing over the
next five years. And other at $645 ,000.00. I'm not going to read
every single one of those numbers for the next windows , but you
can see how we got our numbers to work. Lastly , policy
considerations. So , in our plans , we shouldn't just be looking at
projects. We should look at what's on the horizon, what types of
ordinance changes , what types of policy topics should we be
thinking about as a city. One thing that came up very commonly in
our input both in surve y and in person was bicycle safety, not just
if you're the bicycle , but if you're the dri ver working with them.
One idea that we haven't completely fleshed out and wanted to ,
obviously , move forward with yet, but we wanted to introduce
would be a bike priority network. The green lines you see on the
right map on the screen. The first question I get from residents
when I talk about a bike priority network is what is a bike priority
network. We can tell you what it's not. It's not bike lanes
everywhere. It's likely bike lanes maybe on one or two of the
corridors. We need time to flush out what that recommendation
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ultimately is.
Right now , we're envisioning a little bit of safety, a little bit of, not
just safety on the road , but education and social media and
communications . We're looking at probably some additional
signage to make drivers aware which roads they should expect to
see bikes. We're not looking at bike lanes on every road. We 're
looking at in some locations , maybe some widening of a foot or
two just to give them a little bit safer bike shoulder to be on. It may
be just some signage. It may be some additional marking. We 're
working through those recommendations based on , again , public
input , the Strava bicycling data.
It's actually data driven . We know where people are using bike .
That affected the green lines we're showing on our map and the
input we got from our focus groups based on bicycles and
pedestrians. I don't want to hit every sing le one of the bullets , but
the second one I also wanted to briefly introduce . What is a
vulnerable road users ' ordinance? To my knowledge , I think it's
either one or two cities in this state that has something like this . I'm
familiar with Dunwoody. They passed theirs several years ago . It's ,
basically , an expanded version of the three-foot rule that the state
has if you're familiar with that.
It requires drivers to be observing a bicyclist on the road and slow
down or get over to provide that 3-foot buffer when possible .
Dunwoody's ordinance wouldn't necessarily have to be the exact
same way we do . But we've spoken with our police chief. It's
something that we're, obviously , not ready to talk about details yet.
But when we look at these types of plans , we wanted to introduce
the topic and then , have that conversation and have that discussion
for details on another day. Next steps , any input on projects? Any
put input at all?
I hope all of you read your reports over the weekend. Any changes
at all? I would love to hear those tonight. Otherwise , we are
planning to put this document up for adoption in consent in
December. And you'll see an item as well to modify the TSPLOST
project list in December coming out of these recommendations for
the project list. And I'm open to any questions you might ask.
I got a couple of things . Some of it's just having you explain stuff
to me. When you talk about increasing road capacity , when I think
of that, I think of going from two lanes to four lanes . But reading
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CM Jacobus:
Rob Dell Ross:
CM Cookerly:
Rob Dell Ross:
CM Jacobus:
Rob Dell Ross:
the documents , it doesn't sound like that's always the answer there.
Is that true?
That 's true. Let's go back to our TSPLOST-2 project list and make
sure. Let's actually take one step further back. Let's go back to this
slide. We have strategic plan bullet at the very bottom of the red
arrows on the outcome measures on the screen. Establish plan to
analyze and develop a means to reduce red lines in Milton traffic
by 2023. What is that? The red lines are where delay is. And
typically, on a road, let's say Freemanville or Hopewell or 3 72 ,
typically , from an engineering perspective , if you're trying to solve
that red line, you're thinking if it's a two-lane road , I'm going to
widen to four lanes.
You won't see widening from two to four lanes in our
recommendations because we have heard pretty soundly pretty I
don't want to say unanimously, but a pretty strong majority of
input does not want to necessarily take our two lane roads and
widen to four lane roads. The only widening that we have on our
radar at this point someday will be State DOT likely widening 140
on our boundary . I can't see wi dening in our project list, either in
TSPLOST-2 or TSPLOST-3 anytime soon.
So , when you're looking at increasing road capacity , is it mostly
through turn lanes and that type of thing?
That's correct, yes.
So , you're dispersing.
We're trying to give -as best we can we're trying to give people
multiple ways to get from Point A to Point B, not just wi dening the
collector or widening the Archdale trying to give them two or three
or four options.
The other question I had was with the state takes certain action that
you really don't have any control over. For example , adding the
interchange on 400, which is going to dump over to Morris Road.
But it's also going to have a big impact on Bethany -Bethany
Bend. Are we going to move that project or consider moving that
project up ? And I can't remember where I saw it?
So , we currently have -I am looking at R54 on the screen. So, we
have it on TSPLOST tentatively of course for TSPLOST -3. So , $8
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Rob Del Ross:
Mayor Jamison :
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million towards looking at corridor improvements along Bethany
from east of State Route 9 to Morris Road. And we've talked about
that a lot internally and are , of course, subject to change. But our
current vision for that project would be something similar to what
Rucker Road is in Alpharetta. Obviously , not all the pedestrian
lights , but something where we're trying to slow people down and
get more of a residential feel , not just a road as quickly as I can to
get from Point A to Point B.
And I'm wondering whether and I remember seeing that as a Level
2, and I'm wondering as quickly as that interchange is going to
open up, that's going to change the traffic flow. For example, most
people that live in Crooked Creek , myself included , would get off
at that new interchange to go home versus the Windward one that
we've all used now. And a lot of the people that get off at
Windward that are going into Forsyth are going to get off and go to
Bethany Bend. So , my concern is should this one be moved up into
Level 1 and something else moved to Level 2 because of what the
state 's done?
So , if there's a consensus to move that project forward, that's ,
obviously , something we would do . We're financially constrained.
So , if we wanted to keep that project funded at $8 million, which
we think is a good number for right of way and construction
needed , we would need to try and find $8 million off the project
list on the screen that we would need to trade to get back to Level
2. That's something that if you want staff to look at in the next two
weeks , we can. If there are any recommendations and guidance and
sense from you tonight , we would love to hear which projects we
may want to pause on and slow down instead of that one.
And $8 million is a big number.
It is. We don't have -it doesn't have to be $8 million [inaudible -
crosstalk] [01:40:24]. It doesn't necessarily have to be $8 million.
That's a number that , again , was an estimate . We have zero design
work. We have zero survey work. It's what we thought we would
need if we were looking at the entirety of the corridor from , let's
say , Bethany Creek subdivision all the way down past the
roundabout to Morris , what we thought to look at that entire
corridor and do something similar to what Rucker Road looks like .
Personally , when I look at -we've got $4 million at the Red Road
Safety Study. Is that something that could be shifted in exchange? I
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CM Mohrig:
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Mayor Jamison:
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really don't know of a recommendation right off the top of my
head , but I would ask that you guys take another look and see?
That's definitely an option. Trading the Bethany project for those
three projects you see on the bottom right , Red Road , Pedestrian
Improvement Center Safety Study , roughly at $5 million. That's
our Tier 2 15%. If we did that simple trade, that would give let's
say $5 million to $6 million towards Bethany.
I share Jan's concern. I mean , living off from Bethany Bend, I
know we reduced it down to 40 mph. I'd like to see that even go
lower because it is primarily -that's a residential corridor. I will
even be more so. But the concern , I think we were told GDOT is
not going to do the realignment of Bethany Bend until we do the
four lane expansion by the time it gets up there.
So , that does mean , like what Jan had said , we're going to see more
and more traffic directed instead of going down Cogburn Road to
get to Windward for the people coming from the west side or
Hopewell Road and that direction, we're going to see that traffic
funneled right onto Bethany Bend because they will start using that
instead of using the Windward exit.
Given that the interchange is now a couple of years under
construction, and given that the State Route 9 project hasn't started
yet, I agree. We're likely going to be in a situation in a couple of
years where the interchange is open and pouring those cars into
Milton and we won't have those offset intersections on 9 to help
alleviate that. I completely agree.
Yeah . And I think part of the issue is like I see the two big ticket
items here , the $4 million. I think that's where we have a lot of the
traffic accidents now. And that's probably a safety issue. I know at
least Cox Road and Red Road. So , maybe y'all can take a stab at
what Councilmembers Mohrig and Jacobus are kind of thinking ,
which is they're thinking outside -into the future , which could be a
problem. But yeah, that's like I said , that's a big ticket number to
kind of remove some other items for. So. I don't know.
We'll take a look. We'll do our best.
Yeah . Thank you. Thanks .
And no other questions ?
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Mayor Jamison :
Rob Dell Ross:
Mayor Jamison :
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison :
Anything else ? Y'all are gonna be busy. Appreciate it.
We are .
So , are we doing presentations?
We are .
All right. So , there's no first presentation item. We'll move on. The
public hearing is deferred to the December 18 , so no action
required there. There's on zoning agenda items . We'll move on to
unfinished business. Will City Clerk please sound the items?
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
City Clerk:
Kelsey Maddox :
Kelsey Maddox
Mayor Jamison
Kelsey Maddox:
Mayor, that item is consideration of an ordinance to amend Article
8 of Chapter 14 Pretrial Intervention and Di version Program of the
Code of the City of Milton , Georgia. It's Agenda Item No. 23-294 ,
Captain Jason Griffin.
Good evening , Mayor and Council. In light of Chief Austin being
on PTO , I wanted to take the opportunity to introduce to you our
city solicitor from our Municipal Court. She's going to talk about
this agenda item. She's much more well versed and it affects her
side of the house. Today 's your first time , right?
I think so.
All right.
And last time I was before you guys , I guess somewhat virtually
and was under Kelsey Maddox . I'm now Kelsey Spade. So , if you
were wondering , who is that person, that is me still. So , thank you ,
Mr. Mayor and Council , for having me here today . I'm here to
request an amendment to Article 8 of Chapter 14, which is
currently in our Milton Municipal Code covering pretrial
diversion, pretrial intervention, and diversion program. We are
unique here in the city of Milton that we have an ordinance that
covers pretrial intervention and diversion.
It is not a required code section for municipalities to have that sort
of program. That program is actually governed by state statut e,
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Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
CM Cookerly:
CM Jacobus :
CM Cookerly:
Mayor Jamison:
which can be found in OCGA 15/18/80 and here in the Milton
Municipal Court, we have pretrial diversion. And in order for us to
better help the citizens that come before the court, we would
request that the ordinance that currently is 14-182 be reserved. It's
simply an administrative type function that talks about how
someone enrolls and gets into the program. It's not required by
statute. It's not necessary.
It just exhausts court resources and takes up time before the court,
which we don't have to do . And then , as 14-181 is just talking
about the existence of the establishment of the program. And we
just ask for a revision just to the last line, which just talks about
someone making a motion or something like that , which would
also require going before the court, which is not necessary. But the
establishment of the program and the first line is fine. So, that's all
we're asking here today. I'm here to answer any questions you may
have about the program.
We appreciate Chief Austin's participation in the program.
Obviously, they're the ones that make the cases that come before
us. And again, pretrial diversion is truly an opportunity for first
time offenders , people with low le vel crimes who are eligible for
the program. Eligibility is based on criminal history , drivers ,
history , those kind of things and are very limited circumstances.
So , just want to give first time offenders and city resi dents an
opportunity to keep their history clean. So , that's essentially
pretrial diversion . But if you have any questions , I'm here to
answer them.
Do we have any public comment?
We do not , sir.
Okay. Close the public comment. Any questions? No? Hearing
none , I will open it for a motion.
And I lost our place .
Mayor , I make a motion that we approve Agenda Item No . 23-294.
Second.
Okay. I hav e a motion from Councilmember Jacobus , second from
Councilmember Cookerly to approve Agenda Item No. 23-294.
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All in favor , please say aye.
Councilmembers: Aye.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Jacobus moved to approve Agenda
Item No. 23-294. Councilmember Cookerly seconded the motion. The
motion passed (5-0). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Steven Krokoff:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
CM Cookerl y :
CM Verhoff:
Mayor Jamison:
Any opposed? That is unanimous. Thank you. We will move on to
new business. Will the City Clerk please sound the item?
That new business item is consideration of a resolution of the city
of Milton, Georgia declaring the results of the November 7, 2023 ,
municipal general election. It 's Agenda Item No. 23-305 . Mr.
Steven Krokoff.
Good evening , Mayor and Council. The election results officially
certified on Tuesday , November 14 , 2023 , have been submitted to
the Secretary of State's Office. Pursuant to state law, it is
mandatory to file and record a copy of the consolidated results as a
permanent record in the minutes of the Superintendent 's Office. By
adopting the resolution presented , the election results will be
incorporated into the city's permanent minutes, thus satisfying that
requirement. Please let me know if you have any questions .
Okay. Do we have any public comment?
We do not, Sir.
Okay. I will close public comment and I will -any questions for
Steve? Okay. We'll open it for a motion.
Mr. Mayor , I make a motion that we approve Agenda Item No. 23-
305.
Second.
I have a motion from Councilmember Cookerly and a second from
Councilmember Verhoff to approve Agenda Item No. 23-305. All
in favor , please say aye.
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Councilmembers: Aye.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Cookerly moved to approve Agenda
Item No. 23-305. Councilmember Verhoff seconded the motion . The
motion passed (5 -0). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
Mayor Jamison :
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
CM Jacobus:
CM Verhoff:
Mayor Jamison:
Councilmembers:
Any opposed? That is unanimous. Will the City Clerk please sound
the next item?
That next item is consideration of a resolution adopting the 2024
city of Milton City Council regular meeting and work session
schedule. It's Agenda Item No. 23-306 . Mayor and Council, in
your packets tonight, you will see a draft calendar for 2024 that
will reflect the council meetings and the work session for
upcoming next year. And just as a reminder, any council meeting
that might fall on the Monday, which is a holiday, we'll always
move that to the Wednesday . So, your January is going to be two
Wednesday regular meetings. Any questions, please let me know,
but I'm keeping it short and simple for you tonight.
Any public comment?
There is none , Sir.
Okay. We'll close it and open it for a motion.
Mr. Mayor, I make a motion we approve Agenda Item No. 23-306.
Second.
Okay. I have a motion from Councilmember Jacobis and a second
from Councilmember Verhoff to approve Agenda Item No. 23-
306 . All in favor , please say aye.
Aye.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Jacobus moved to approve Agenda
Item No. 23-306. Councilmember Verhoff seconded the motion. The
motion passed (5-0). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
Mayor Jamison: Any opposed? That's unanimous. Will the City Clerk please sound
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City Clerk:
Emily Groth:
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the next item?
Item C is consideration of a resolution to authorize an application
for a Roadside Enhancement and Beautification Council , known as
REBC Grant from the Georgia Department of Transportation,
Agenda Item No. 23-307. Miss Emily Groth .
All right. Good evening , Mayor and Council. Tonight , we'll be
considering a resolution to apply for a Roadside Enhancement and
Beautification Council Grant from the Georgia Department of
Transportation. This has been an important cross departmental
initiative with assistance from our Community Development
Department, including Tracie Wildes , our land development
manager and Sandra DeWitt , our city arborist. Tonight , we'll
review the grant details , the proposed project site , and project
elements.
We'll review the funding for this opportunity and a potential
timeline. If there's interest in the project , we'll look to approve the
resolution that acknowledges future mowing and maintenance
needs . This is a grant for landscaping improvements along state
right of way through GDOT. There's no match required , and this is
a reimbursement grant with a maximum award of $50 ,000.00.
Eligible projects are listed here and include landscaping plant
material , sod , topsoil and mulch , and labor associated with those
items. Median or hardscaping improvements are not eligible.
Our proposed project site is the Liberty Grove property at Liberty
Grove Road and State Route 372, Birmingham Highway. This is
the gateway property at the Fulton Cherokee County line. Our
project would include native and Georgia grown plantings and
materials as required by the grant. We would consider some land
management improvements like overgrowth and underbrush
removal and some grounds repair and maintenance . And this
project would also create a refresh site ready for any future
branding and place making opportunities.
What you see here is the property survey with the project area
highlighted in blue. Staff is still finalizing the proposed plantings
and landscape design. We just know that we'll stay out of the
visibility, the clear zone and set the items deeper into the property
and create a nice gateway space as you come into Milton. So , in
addition to this grant opportunity, we have city funding for some of
the ineligible items like those hardscape improvements and some
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Mayor Jamison:
CM Jacobus:
Emily Groth :
CM Jacobus:
Mayor Jamison :
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison:
CM Cookerly:
CM Mohrig:
Mayor Jamison:
Councilmembers:
supplemental landscaping .
This was a 2023 initiative allocating $30 ,000.00. And the grant
would fund the traditional landscape , materials and labor at a
maximum of $50 ,000.00. The application consists of these items
listed here . The project description , a map , a site analysis , an initial
preliminary landscape drawing , some cost estimates for the project,
and a long-term maintenance plan. Our next steps would be to
complete the application by December 1. And we would expect
award by summer of 2024. And I'm open to any questions.
That's good stuff. Any questions for Miss Emily ? Councilmember
Jacobus?
Why 'd you choose this site ?
Well , it's a good one that we own the property right off of the state
right of way . This grant is only open to state owned thoroughfare
so we own the right of way off of it and we own the property
directly adjacent to the right of way , so it can just feed into it
directly .
Thanks.
Do we have any public comment?
We do not , sir.
I will open it for a motion .
Mr. Mayor , I make a motion that we approve Agenda Item No . 23-
307 .
Second.
I have a motion from Councilmember Cookerly and a second from
Councilmember Mohrig to approve Agenda Item No. 23-307. All
in favor , please say aye.
Aye.
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Motion and Vote: Councilmember Cookerly moved to approve Agenda
Item No. 23-307. Councilmember Mohrig seconded the motion . The
motion passed (5-0 ). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Rob Dell Ross:
CM Jacobus :
Any opposed? That is unanimous. Will the City Clerk please sound
the next item?
It em D is consideration of a blanket right of way acqms1tlon
approval for the Bethany Road at Providence Road roundabout
Project, Agenda Item No. 23-308 , Engineering Project Manager
Mr. Rob Dell Ross.
Thank you , Tammy. And good evening , again, Mayor and Council.
I do not have a presentation for this item , but I wanted to show you
two graphics . This is an update for you on the status of the
roundabout at Bethany and Providence. We have about 70% design
complete. We're getting ready to start right away acquisition and
we have all the appraisals in . The map you see on the screen is a
little bit rotated. It's kind of difficult to get your sense , but Parcel 1
is the city own green space property on the southwest comer of the
intersection. Parcels 2 through 6 you see numbered on the screen
are privately owned.
You see here list Parcel 1 through 6 with easement and right of
way areas that we need to acquire to build the project. Interesting
note about this project, a little bit different , Parcel 1 is city owned
purchased by Green Space. That will be a reimbursement to the
Green Space Fund similar to what we did at Freemanville and
Birmingham. Parcels 2 through 6 , we took into account trying to
balance impacts for all five of those remaining parcels . So , some of
them have homes that are relatively close to the streets . Some of
them , Parcel 4 , the home is significantly farther away from the
street.
So, we tried to ultimately balance , not wanting to inconvenience
one parcel more than the other. With this approval tonight, we are
asking for a blanket right of way amount of $299 ,200.00 to go
towards acquisition of the 6 parcels.
We're all up here trying to figure out which one is the green space
again?
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Rob Dell Ross:
CM Jacobus:
Rob Dell Ross :
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison::
CM Jaobus:
CMMohrig:
Mayor Jamison:
Councilmembers:
Parcel 1. So , actually let me see if I can rotate this. That's a little
bit -nope , I'm reversed. That's a little bit closer to true north right
there . Parcel 1 is the green space owned Cooper Sandy.
Out of curiosity , I thought it looks like we 're taking more property
from No. 4 than we are the green space I thought we were taking
more from the green space .
We are acquiring the most from the green space. So , the areas you
see on the screen , we are acquiring about a little more than half an
acre , Parcel 1 right away area, 33,000 square feet from the city's
property. Parcel 4 , yes , we are acquiring 9,000. That is due to
trying to take into account homes on and structures on Parcel 2 and
Parcel 5 are relatively close to the road. So , if we took that circle
and shifted it more towards the right , we'd be decreasing area on
Parcel 4. We 'd be starting to impact structures on 2 and 5. That
was something we were wanting to avoid.
Any public comment?
There are none , sir.
All right , close public comment. I will -any other questions? Open
it for a motion.
Mr. Mayor , I make a motion we approve Agenda Item No. 23-308.
Second .
I have a motion from Councilmember Jacobus and a second from
Councilmember Mohrig to approve Agenda Item No. 23-308 . All
in fa vor, please say aye .
Aye.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Jacobus moved to approve Agenda
Item No. 23-308. Councilmember Mohrig seconded the motion. The
motion passed (5-0). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
Mayor Jamison: Any opposed? That is unanimous. If the City Clerk will sound the
next item . And before , you sound that ne xt item , I, the gentleman
that walked in the door, he goes , "Where is my item on the
agenda?" I go , "You're all the way up front. You're on consent
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City Clerk:
Tracie Wildes:
Mayor Jamison:
CM Mohrig:
agenda." And unfortunately, you're at the very end . So , I apologize
for that. So , please call the ne xt item.
Well , Mayor , we've saved the best for last. It's consideration of a
final plat, the developments Heatherton Mayfield Road , Land Lot
1030 , 1059 , and 1102 . It 's District 2, Section 2 , a final plat for 21
single famil y lots a total of 33 .99 acres with a density of 0.62 lots
per acre. It 's Agenda Item No. 23-309. And our land development
manager , Ms. Tracie Wildes.
Mayor , Members of Council , I am presenting the final plat for
Heatherton tonight. Heatherton is located on Mayfield Road. It's
just east of Milton High School at Freemanville Road. And it's just
beyond the roundabout at May field and Bethany Road. The subject
site is outlined in gold. This is our sewer expansion map from our
GIS system. It does identify the subject site in red , but you will see
that the limits of the sewer expansion do bisect the property on the
south side . That's identified in the striped arced area. The entire
site plan for Heatherton is in the upper right hand comer, identified
in red.
It is 21 acres - 2 1 single famil y lots , my apologies , across 33.99
acres. The red front section of the development is thin and large so
that y ou can see the existing limits of sewer expansion arc , which
is identified in yellow. And of the 21 lots , 11 are eligible for se wer
expansion. One caveat for eligibility is that the entire lot must be
within the limits of the sewer expansion. So , Lot Nos. 7, 8, 15 , and
16 would all be septic . Similarly, the rear site plan highlighted and
enlarged shows the remaining septic lots. It also identifies the
common detention and water quality pond area that encompasses
6.64 acres.
And at the end of the cul-de-sac is the common male kiosk for the
development. A few site picture s of the de velopment. They are in
the middle of completing landscaping now. We do have
representatives from the development should you have an y
questions and we welcome to take those now .
Do we have any questions for staff? Councilmember Mohrig?
Just a question. I know whenever we have a major subdivision , we
require a rural view shed. Is that something that's going to be here ?
Because it seems like we've taken everything out right up to the
little monuments and the fence.
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Tracie Wildes:
CMMohrig:
Tracie Wildes:
Mayor Jamison:
City Clerk:
Mayor Jamison :
CM Verhoff:
CM Jacobus:
Mayor Jamison :
Councilmembers:
We do. There is a substantial landscape plan going back in. So ,
that area , there was a lot of underbrush. There was some trees to
the east of that site , predominantly pines that we're taking out. But
they are in the process of vegetation now. The right of way itself,
the road -so , anything beyond that roundabout is Alpharetta. So ,
at the property line and beyond , obviously is Milton .
Right. So , the vegetation is going to meet what we need for the
rural view shed to kind of protect as you look into the subdivision
because that was a big thing we fought for. And I would think we
want and with this subdivision have the same thing . So , in the
future , you're not looking straight into the whole subdivision. You
actually have more of a shelter along the front.
That's correct. There is a substantial amount of vegetation going in ,
so there will be a buffer along the entire frontage.
Any other questions for staff? Any public comment?
There are none , sir.
I'll close public comment and open it for a motion.
Miss Mayor, !make a motion that we approve Agenda Item No.
23-309.
Second .
I have a motion from Councilmember Verhoff and a second from
Councilmember Jacobus to approve Agenda Item No. 23-309. All
in favor , please say aye.
Aye .
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Verhoff moved to approve Agenda
Item No . 23-309. Councilmember Jacobus seconded the motion. The
motion passed (5-0). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Mayor Jamison : Any opposed ? That is unanimous . Thank you. Any staff reports ?
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No. Any Mayor and Council reports? No. Nothing to report on?
Does Council have anything report on ? No. All right. Any staff?
All right. With that , we will adjourn to executive session to discuss
personnel, land acquisition , and potential litigation. Do I have? A
motion?
CM Mohrig:
CM Verhoff:
Mayor Jamison:
Councilmembers:
Mayor Jamison :
Councilmembers:
So moved.
Second.
Okay . That's Mohrig and Verhoff. And all in favor, say aye.
Aye.
Any opposed? That's unanimous. I know. So, just remember , it's
Rick and Jan. All in favor ?
Aye.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Mohrig moved to adjourn into
Executive Session at 8:03pm. Councilmember Verhoff seconded the
motion . The motion passed .(5-0). Councilmember Johnson and
Councilmember Moore were absent from the meeting.
RECONVENE
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Mohrig moved to reconvene into the
Regular Meeting at 8:56pm. Councilmember Jacobus seconded the
motion. The motion passed (5-0). Councilmember Johnson and
Councilmember Moore were absent from the meeting.
City Clerk:
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Jamison :
Mayor Jamison ::
CM Jacobus:
I know they're out of control. Out of control.
Motion to adjourn.
Jan , you got second?
Second.
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Mayor Jamison :
Councilmembers:
All right. So, Rick and Jan are also adjourning. All in favor? Aye.
Aye.
City Clerk: There we go.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Mohrig moved to adjourn the Regular
Meeting at 8:56pm. Councilmember Jacobus seconded the motion. The
motion passed {5-0). Councilmember Johnson and Councilmember
Moore were absent from the meeting.
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