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Minutes
The Milton Tree Preservation Committee
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 at 3:30 p.m.
Meeting Location:
Milton City Hall
Executive Conference Room—Suite ion -G
Committee Members in attendance
Roger Festa
Zack Middlebrook
Diane Palmer
Adam Orkin
COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT IN ATTENDANCE
Cherilyn Allen
David Holcomb
Scott Gronholm
GUEST ATTENDEES
Joe Padilla
MILTON STAFF IN ATTENDANCE
Mark Law, City Arborist
Alexandria Hancock, Community Development Intern
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AGENDA
1) Call to order
2) Approval of the minutes for August 27 and September loth meetings.
3) Review Definitions
4) Discussion on:
Violations
Enforcement
Inspections
Notice of Violation
Stop Work Orders
Modification, Revocation, Suspension, Voidance of Permit
Bonding
Fines and Penalties
Appeals
Effective Date
Validity
5) Additional Comments
7) Adjournment
CALL TO ORDER
➢ Meeting called to order by City Arborist, Mark Law
INTRODUCTION
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
27 and to committee in agreement to approve minutes
GENERAL COMMENTS:
Discussion of Tree Removal Permit and Guidelines:
Mark Law- introduction
Diane Palmer- do want to permit for individual property owners as well as
developments. Concern about every tree having an individual permit, and confirming
trees are dead before requiring a permit.
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Mark Law- Everything talked about so far is conceptual: the number of trees per site
being removed with a permit will be regulated to 6, and any trees over 8" caliper would
need a permit, should we include dead trees in the 6 count?
Diane Palmer- We do not want to put a greater burden on the city staff than
necessary. Let us regulate where needed, but not to overwork the staff on an
unnecessarily large amount of permits.
Roger Festa- There is a possibility of submitting an online application that includes a
picture of the tree to get a permit for removing the tree.
Adam Orkin- keep in mind recommendation process, because it will eventually be up
to City Council.
Diane Palmer- the least amount of financial and time expense is ideal with being able
to regulate
Discussion of Definitions:
Mark Law- agents, changing from Fulton Co to CoM. Zoning buffer
Roger Festa- on zoning buffer... "cleaning of underbrush..." do we have someone
supervising this? We should add wording to better... to allow flexibility for who can
supervise and how to gain approval.
Zack Middlebrooks- cambium do we take both out of leave in?
Mark Law- most likely take both out
Roger Festa- same densities being used as last week? 15 in AG 20 in R and 30 units in
C the same as the original?
Diane Palmer confirming that commercial has the most density, next is residential,
and next is agricultural
Mark Law- confirmed
Roger Festa- requesting to take out the clause about silt fencing. Request to define
landscape strip
Mark Law- it is addressed in the zoning ordinance. No further comments through 29
Roger Festa- raising awareness that artificial vs. natural state water may not be correct
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Adam Orkin- asking that city attorney look into the artificial vs natural bodies of
water, is it state water?
Agreed among committee the issue is important and must be watched carefully
Adam- apply corrections to all city codes
Mark Law- boundary tree anything over 8" on the outside of a buildable area
Agree that further definition at a later time
Mark Law- Milton tree is more specific than heritage or specimen tree. Specifies that
it is a tree that is possibly even more valuable than a heritage or specimen tree...
important to the city. Thoughts of a tree trail.
Agreed by committee that a tree trail would be something good for the city.
Diane Palmer- a more specific and flowery name that Milton Tree
Joe Padilla- if language open arbitrary action, might want to have the city attorney
work through this one because being arbitrary is dangerous.
Mark Law- as long as permission by resident
Joe Padilla- this concept is successful when a Milton tree is treated as though there is a
conservation easement on this tree and it will be almost impossible to take down.
Mark Law- incentives to encourage landowner/resident to allow Milton tree on their
property. Incentives such as fertilizer or
Roger Festa- tree trail and tree fund recommendations should be defined and
integrated into this document.
Adam Orkin- flexibility to move trees around or mockability to
Zack Middlesbrook- maybe tree fund should be a green fund?
Mark Law- that may be a little more difficult because some would want it specifically
for individual trees as well as the maintenance, but
Roger Festa- think you should have an established committee to handle/transfer that
money in the tree fund
Alice Wakefield- don't have a problem with being able to have a committee to
recommend allocation of money, but inevitably it is up to CC
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Adam Orkin- all of the tree recompense money could be used for the public good
because there is a lot of money that developers pay into that recompense
Mark Law- tree trail more definition to where there would be a map and have
designated trees including Milton trees with plaques.
Mark Law- tree removal permit is incorporated into the land disturbance permit for
developers but individual permits for residents
Discussion of:
Violations:
Mark Law- Citations can be issues for land disturbance or removal within stream
buffers will be state issued. Penalty for entering into tree save areas and add a fine for
encroaching into tree save areas
Alice Wakefield- cannot implement fines, but can define that it is wrong and then if
they do, a notice of violation will be issued and the judge will determine punishment
Roger Festa- the language and wording concerning violations for the removal of any
tree passed the density or size without a permit must be addressed throughout this
section to update from Fulton County.
Mark Law- wording will relate back to the tree removal permit section as well
Enforcement:
Alice Wakefield- not all judges will order cleanup or fixing, so we must have a
thorough conversation with those developers
Mark Law- faster action with a stop work order
Zack Middlesbrook- removal and encroaching into tree save areas
Alice Wakefield- needs to define
Roger Festa- can permits be voided as opposed to being revoked?
Alice Wakefield- cannot think of any reason to void a permit, but will ask the attorney
about
Inspections:
Mark Law- more of a staff interest
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Notice of Violation:
Mark Law- process of notifying the customer of their violation so that they have a
chance to fix it before
Stop Work Orders:
Mark Law- usually if it is an extreme violation that concerns a stream buffer or
something of the sort
Joe Padilla- addressing both a NOV and SWO certain activities warrant a violation and
if the activity is not corrected, then a stop work order is submitted. It is helpful to
include what signifies a stop work order or a notice of violation in detail
Alice Wakefield- making it too detailed can sometimes work against the city.
Joe Padilla- my issue is if the violation is corrected within a certain amount of time,
there should be no stop work orders
Mark Law- when staff is out in the field and sees a developer with a violation and
receives a notice of violation, it is still not enough to convince the developer to fix the
problem. A stop work order gets the developer's attention. Consistency of filing stop
work orders is most important.
Joe Padilla- "These items shall constitute..." are good words to use for this section
Modification, Revocation, Suspension, Voidance of Permit:
Mark Law- will check to see if further enforcement is needed
Bonding:
Roger Festa- thinks $125 bond is high
Mark Law- covers maintenance and cost and is pretty consistent with other
surrounding communities
Joe Padilla- is bonding only required with you are clear cutting?
Mark Law- bonds are appropriate for any shortage in density
Diane Palmer- quality of life issues are at hand
Adam Orkin- different land uses (residential, live/work communities, and
commercial) are all very different and some are more appropriate
Fines and Penalties:
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Appeals:
Effective Date:
Validi
PUBLIC COMMENTS
NEXT MEETING DATE
➢ Wednesday, October 8, 2oo8 @ 3:30 p.m.
➢ Location: City Hall Executive Conference Room, Suite 107-G
ADJOURNMENT
➢ There was no further business
➢ The Milton Tree Preservation Committee meeting adjourned at 5:00 p.m.
Date Approved: I G _ 22— c
�1PP BY:
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