HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - PRAB - 06-18-2009MEETING MINUTES
CITY OF MILTON PARKS AND RECREATION
ADVISORY BOARD
Thursday, June 18, 2009,11:3o a.m.
CALL TO ORDER
Meeting was called to order by Mark Reed at x1:40 a.m.
ROLL CALL
Roll call was taken by Linda Blow.
MEMBERS PRESENT
Mark Shaw
Mark Reed
Curtis Mills
Tom Mulroy
Sandra Sheley
Lauren Jackson
OTHERS PRESENT
Alan Clock - AYSA Board Member & Milton citizen
Scott Stachowski, HYA Certification Officer
Chris Lagerbloom, City Manager
Stacey Inglis, Finance Director
Matt Marietta, Assistant to City Manager
Linda Blow, Projects Coordinator
Quorum announced by Mark Reed.
APPROVAL OF PAST MINUTES
Motion to approve minutes of May 21, 2oog by Mark Reed, seconded by Sandra Sheley. The vote
was unanimous and the motion carried.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Alan Clock - Milton resident and AYSA [Alpharetta Youth Softball Association] Board Member
distributed a document entitled "Emerging Issue of Milton Residents Being Cbarged Usury Fees
for Participation in Alpharetta Recreation Programs". He made the following points:
• Alpharetta charges a 75% non-resident fee on every program
■ bo% of AYSA are non -Alpharetta residents - approx. 400 Milton families
■ Non resident fees went from $32.95 to $105.00
• Roswell charges a 5o% non-resident fee and so does Hopewell
• Wants to have quid pro quo fee - Hopewell should raise non resident fee to 75%
■ Maybe have conversation with other city council members or their Parks & Rec
directors for reciprocal agreements
NEW AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS
■ Ex
of Milton
➢ Stacey Inglis stated that she did not bri
Committee wanted to know but she was h
➢ Curtis Mills distributed an outline of Fins
and Sandy Sheley.
➢ Curtis stated that he wanted to have p+
members of the Advisory Board,
➢ Chris Lagerbloom stated that Milton has
it is his responsibility along with the Cit
budget and present to Council.
➢ Chris suggested that Curtis, Sandy, Matt
future to discuss the P&R budget and the
➢ The meeting was held and everyone
additional space. Chris Lagerbloom is t
Board of Education regarding space shy
and hope that there will be something to
Parks & Recreation Mission Statement
➢ Mark Reed made some minor changes
Jackson questioned whether the specific
the statement. After some discussic
maximizing the use of the facilities... M
board members for final approval.
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Director, Stacey Inglis, to create the
. and Brad meet sometime in the near
'ole in the process.
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Shaw and Tom Mulrov
iat the bottom line is that we need
nth Patrick Burke of the Fulton County
will be meeting with him again soon
'the P&R Committee.
ailed to all board members. Lauren
to "fields and lights" should be part of
'ent wording was agreed upon, e.g.
nake changes and send back out to all
➢ Mark Reed is now a member of CPAC anart anything the Board needs to hear at
the P&R meetings. CPAC is working on -ie City into character areas. There will
be a public presentation on July 18th. i
➢ Dates were discussed to schedule a pr
Dates that all members were available
Matt Marietta to reserve the Council 1
was agreeable.
Report from discussions with Alpharetta
high school feeder teams
➢ Tom Mulroy will be meeting with ,Tim
the EDAW Assessment to the public.
til, 16l" and the 30th. The Board asked
16th so it would be available if EDAW
*eation regarding agreement on fees for
its matter next week.
■ Discussion of Board Meeting day and time
➢ At the request of one of the Board metalew day and time was discussed for the
monthly meeting. After discussion, it w - that the present day and time worked
for most of the Board and that if someon -oblem attending they can call in on the
conference phone in the meeting room.
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REPORTS OF COMMITTEE
■ Standing Committee — HYA and baseball/Softball —Tom Mulroy & Mark Shaw
➢ Discussed above.
■
Standing Committee — Finance & Budget — Curtis Mills/Sandy Shele
➢ Discussed above.
■
Standing Committee — Ci Code Chapter on Parks & Rec Fees & Charges Rental Policy
Discussion — Mark Reed/Sabrina Moore
➢ Mark Reed states they have reviewed this Chapter and have some minor changes. Need
to set a meeting with Brad to discuss further.
■ Standing Committee — Recreation Site — Mark Reed/Lauren Jackson
➢ Lauren Jackson suggested going to private schools and churches for space, this is an on-
going matter.
CITY STAFF REPORTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
Nothing reported.
OTHER BUSINESS
NEXT REGULAR MEETING DATE
➢ Thursday, July 17,11:3o a.m.
LOCATION OF MEETING
➢ The location of the meetings will be the Executive Conference Room in the City
Manager's office.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion and Vote: Sandra Sheley made a motion to have the meeting adjourned. The motion
was seconded by Mark Reed. The vote was unanimous and the motion carried.
After no further business, the City of Milton Parks and Recreation Advisory Committee meeting
adjourned at x:oo pm.
DATE APPROVED:
Mark Reed, Chair
Milton Parks & Recreation, Advisory Board
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City of Milton
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Finance Committee
Committee Responsibilities — April 30, 2009
1. Annual Budget Preparation
a. Primary responsibilities
L Assist City staff with budget preparation for following year.
ii. Assist in preparation of Capital Budget Request for following year.
iii. Communicate to City Council for support
b. Considerations
i. This process starts in June for the following year.
ii. Review existing budget
iii. Consider needs for corning year, especially as to potential outcomes of
comprehensive assessment for 2014 Budget
1. Community buildings
2. Phase I Birmingham Park development
3. Bell Memorial improvements
4. Providence Park, including community center
2. Budget Oversight
a. Primary responsibilities
i. Monthly Review of Operating Budget
1. Revenue and Expense to Plan
2. Budget variance analysis
ii. Monthly Review of Capital Budget
1. Projects complete relative to plan for year
2. Spend compared. to Budget
iii, Work with City Staff on variances and plans
iv. Communicate with City Council periodically
b. Note - Currently no Operating Budget — 0nly Capital
3. Creative and Alternate Financing
a. Survey and research options for creative financing
i. Grants — Foundations, government, private funding
ii. Sponsorships J Advertising
ill. Financing -- Methods to spread costs to allow immediate important
improvements and progress with long-term financing
4. Potential for Future Consideration — Fees and Charges Policy and Philosophy
a. General philosophy on degree of self sustenance for each park facility and the
park facilities in aggregate.
b. Potential considerations
i. What services would be free and for fee, etc.
ii. Intent of fees — General fund versus directed back to Parks.
iii, Pricing for families with financial need. That is, ensuring that the parks
are available to all citizens, while possibly maintaining a fee policy.
iv. Park entry fees
v. Fees for specific programs and activities
vi. Pricing for Children versus Adults.
vii. Facility rental and guidelines.
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Print Date: 4/30/2009
Milton Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
Emerging issue of Milton Residents Being Charged Usury Fees For Participation in Alpharetta Recreation Programs
introduction/issue
The City of Alpharetta has imposed an additional 75% non-resident "fee" in addition to the cost of
normal participation fee onto all recreation and parks activities. This fee is 50% higher than most non-
resident fees in the area, including Milton's and seems particularly aimed at Milton. residents because of
Milton resident's high participation level in Alpharetta activities. This high level of participation is driven
by the lack of any comparable park or recreation offerings by the City of Milton.
While not new and having been in place since late 2008 this excessive, usury fee:or tax will likely
become a significant issue to many Milton families this fall.
Since the onset of the usury fee enacted by the City of Alpharetta City Council and Parks and Recreation
Department, the Alpharetta Youth Softball Association (AYSA) has been non-compliant to this edict and
only charging non-residents a flat non-resident fee of $39.25.:each season. The City of Alpharetta is now
forcing the AYSA to become compliant to the 75°/a:usury norf-residen:t:fee beginning in the Fall Season
2009.
The cost of a non-resident AYSA participant will go fro m% $179 per season to
approximately $245 per season. It is estimated that the City of Alpharetta will net over $40,000 per
season in non-resident fees, or over $80,000 per year ih this non-resident tax. Currently the flat fee
from AYSA alone nets the city.ap'proximately an additional $16,000 per season or $32,000 annually.
Beginning next season tIne:.City of Alphpretta'vv:i.11 see a significant financial windfall from the compliance
of this tax, the vast majority Of this will come from City of Milton residents.
Although this fee has been known by many Milton residents for some time, it is presumed that the
compliance of this fee by AYSA and its financial impact to so many Milton residents will make this a
"sore -point" issue to the City of Milton residents.
Background:
The following is relevant information specific to AYSA:
AYSA is a very successful youth sports program from girls ages 4-18, has over 750 participants in
both the Fall and Spring seasons each year. Approximately 400 Milton residents are active
participants in this highly successful league each season.
■ AYSA is based out of North Park, which is surrounded by the City of Milton and utilizes eight softball
diamonds at North Park in two distinct seasons each year:
o Fall Season (August to November)
o Spring (January to May)
AYSA has three distinct softball programs:
❑ Recreation Slow Pitch
o knter-Park and Select Fast Pitch
o Travel
• Over 50% of these participants are non -Alpharetta residents with the vast majority (well over 55%)
of these participants being Milton residents.
The all volunteer AYSA is run by a 20 member Board of Directors. Over 50% of the current Board is
non-residents with the majority of the non-resident Board of Directors City of Milton residents.
• AYSA operates well in the black and has a Capitol lmprovernent.Budget in exeess: of $9,000.
issue Ramifications:
It is perceived and presumed that given these financial times and significant "tax" burden imposed on
AYSA by the City of Alpharetta that:
■ Many City of Milton residents will be looking. -€or the City of.Mi[ton 'to provide similar programs for
girls.
■ Many City of Milton residents will leave these programs altogether due to financial constraints and
the female youth in our community wil [:not be offered programs.
There are Title IX or gender.equality implications to the City of Milton due to the fact that there are
no female parks or recreation -pro a:fferecl but limited programs for males via Hopewell Youth
Baseball.
• The City of Alpharetta. is unfairly. targeting City of Milton residents to fund its Parks and Recreation
programs and beinefiting_from Milton's lack of programs facilities.
Suggested Remedies/Strategies:
The following are acti-onable remedies strategies both short and long term for consideration:
• The City of Milton should consider immediately charging non-resident fees for its current programs
that match the non-resident fees of the resident's city (ex. Alpharetta 751X,, Roswell 500/a, etc.).
o Although this may not be a significant impact to many it sets the tone for a City to maintain
a proper quid pro quo.
The City of Milton should at several levels including Mayor, City Council, Parks and Recreation
Boards engage the City of Alpharetta in substantive discussions on a reciprocity program for the
residents. The goal of these discussions to come up with a plan that does not unfairly tax either city
residents, dilute the successful programs already in place and collaborate on programs that benefit
each city residents. Presumably this collaboration would be modeled after already established
programs like Fire and Police which give both communities the ability to pool each other's resources
in a fair and balanced manner.
o This remedy should be done in a "carrot and stick" manner given that Milton resident's
participation in Alpharetta Park and Recreation programs is significant financially and in
participation to the overall success of the Alpharetta programs.
o A public, negative perception of the unfair Alpharetta Parks and Recreation will not
altogether kill their already established programs but will still have a significant impact on
their success and overall offerings in the future. Alpharetta residents will suffer if there is a
significant migration of Milton residents from their programs because of their usury taxes
and fees.
• In lieu of or in conjunction with a reciprocal solution, the City of Milton Parks and Recreation Board
must study either a standalone or collaborative program of Park and Recreation programs at all
levels that will meet the current needs and or enhance existing programs. The City is currently
unprepared to meet the needs of its residents but needs to be prepared to deal with this issue if a
reasonable solution cannot be worked out with its neighboring -communities.
o There are potential resident issues and legal ramifications if there are not comparable
female and male programs..
o Given the demographics of the City and high concentration of families, residents will make
this into a significant political issue and the City of Milton will be forced into expensive
action.