HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes CC - 03/17/2008 - MINS 03 17 08 REG (Migrated from Optiview)Regular Meeting of the Milton City Council
Monday March 17, 2008 at 6:00 pm
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The Regular Council Meeting of the Mayor and Council of the City of Milton was held on March 17, 2008
at 6:00 PM, Mayor Joe Lockwood presiding.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Lockwood called the meeting to order.
ROLL CALL
City Clerk Marchiafava called the roll and made general announcements.
Council Members Present: Councilmember Julie Zahner Bailey, Councilmember Tina D'Aversa,
Councilmember Alan Tart, Councilmember Bill Lusk, Councilmember Karen Thurman
Council Member Absent: Councilmember Burt Hewitt
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Councilmember Lusk introduced the Star Boy Scout Anthony Dissantis who led the Pledge of Allegiance.
City Clerk Marchiafava read Agenda Item No. 08-531.
APPROVAL OF MEETING AGENDA
Staff recommended the following changes:
1. Under the Consent Agenda defer Item No.5, Approval of the Financial Statements for the period
ending February, 2008 until April 14, 2008
2. Under New Business defer Agenda Item No. 3, A Resolution appointing members to the City of
Milton Bike and Pedestrian Path Committee until April 14, 2008.
3. Add a staff report on the Grant Application for the Cascade System.
4. Add an Executive Session to discuss pending litigation and personnel.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember D'Aversa moved to approve the Meeting Agenda, as amended.
Councilmember Thurman seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The motion passed
unanimously.
Mayor Lockwood thanked Tami Hanlin for sitting in for Interim City Manager Chris Lagerbloom.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Mayor Lockwood read the rules for Public Comment
Ed Parsons, 2950 Serenade Court, Milton GA
• He came to introduce Lisa Beharelle.
• She is the original founder of a program that supports rural community in Kentucky.
• Kings Ridge is having an activity on March 27th to donate food and clothes in the area.
• He asked if Council would consider adding them to the Work Session Agenda for April 2151
Lisa Beharelle, 688 Glenover Drive, Milton GA
• Kings Ridge is a program she is very involved in.
• They have had four Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts and church groups in Milton and Alpharetta help with this
project.
• She went to Kentucky seven years ago and visited people who did not have running water in their homes
with wood being their main source of heat.
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She said she did not realize people in our country lived like that.
She has worked with the program since that time.
She would like to talk about the program further during the April 21" Work Session.
CONSENT AGENDA
(Agenda Item No. 08-519)
1. Approval of the February 4, 2008 Regular Meeting Minutes.
(Agenda Item No. 08-532)
2. Approval of the February 20, 2008 Regular Meeting Minutes.
(Agenda Item No. 08-533)
3. Approval of the March 3, 2008 Regular Meeting Minutes.
(Agenda Item No. 08-534)
4. Approval of the February 13, 2008 Special Called Work Session Minutes.
(Agenda Item No. 08-535) Removed and Deferred by Motion and Vote.
5. Approval of the Financial Statements for the period ending February, 2008.
(Agenda Item No. 08-536)
Approval of Land Development Final Plats
1) The Triple Crown III, LL 739 Revise lot lines lot 54
2) Triple Crown IV Unit 1 LL 773 Revise set backs lot 33 per ZM07-007-508
3) King Estates LL 616 2 lots
4) Vickery Crest I LL 1052, 1053, 1108 46 lots
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Thurman moved to approve the Consent Agenda (items 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6).
Councilmember Lusk seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously
PUBLIC HEARING
(Agenda Item No. 08-527)
Approval of a Resolution to approve transmittal of Community Assessment portion of Comp Plan to
Atlanta Regional Commission (ARC) and Department of Community Affairs (DCA).
(This item was deferred on March 3, 2008.)
Community Development Director Tom Wilson
• This item was deferred two weeks ago so Council could provide some edits to the documents we had
prepared.
• We would like to have those edits before we send this to the Atlanta Regional Commission and the
Department of Community Affairs.
• It will take us until the next meeting to incorporate it and bring it back to Council.
• We will then ask Council to approve this Resolution.
• This is a required Public Hearing so we would like to conduct the Public Hearing tonight and defer this
item until April 14, 2008.
Mayor Lockwood asked for Public Comment on the item.
City Clerk Marchiafava stated there was no Public Comment.
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Motion and Second: Councilmember Tart moved to defer the approval of a Resolution to approve transmittal of
Community Assessment portion of Comp plan to Atlanta Regional Commission and Department of Community
Affairs until April 14, 2008. Councilmember D'Aversa seconded the motion.
Discussion on the Motion:
Councilmember D'Aversa stated that she thought there were some items that needed to be included in this
document and asked Community Director Wilson if he would explain the document and how critical the process
is.
Community Development Director Wilson stated that the community portion of the Comp Plan process is the
data gathering for which they use before they get into the Community Assessment part. The Community
Assessment part is a data appendix which is a view of existing conditions before any planning or projections are
done for the future. It captures what is real in the City historically until today. If anyone would like to get a copy
they can find it on the Web site.
Councilmember D'Aversa stated it describes unique areas and characteristics of our community. She said that it
was important for people that had been living in the community for years to take a look at the document and help
us by making sure we have identified properly those unique areas in the community.
Community Development Director Wilson stated that the next process would begin on April 3, 2008 and they
would be meeting every Thursday for the next few months to plan for our future. He encouraged all citizens to
POW attend the meetings and give their input. He said that they had received a very good response to the questionnaire
that was sent. He had expected a few hundred responses, but currently they had approximately two thousand.
Councilmember D'Aversa stated that was great and thanked Community Development Director Wilson and
anyone who had responded.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey suggested to the Boy Scouts in the audience who was working on their Eagle
Badges that they consider how to include their neighbors and let them know about the citizen survey and said that
would be a great way for them to demonstrate outreach and provide first hand involvement from the citizens. She
also thanked staff and the CPAC members in the audience. She said she would be separated from the vote as she
provided input to Community Development Director Wilson.
Vote: There was no further Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously.
ZONING AGENDA
City Clerk Marchiafava read the following zoning rules and stated that at the second Regular Meeting of the
month the Mayor and Council considered a Zoning Agenda. These items include rezoning petition modifications
of zoning use permits and associated concurrent variances in addition to Ordinances and Resolution and text
amendments. The petitions will be heard in the sequence listed on the posted agenda.
Zonine Rules:
• The applicant and all of those in support of the application will be allowed a total of ten minutes to
present the petition.
• The applicant may choose to save some of the time for rebuttal following the presentation by the
.ri opposition.
• The opposition will be allowed a total of ten minutes to present its position.
9 If time remains the opposition will be allowed to rebut.
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• Since the burden of proof is on the applicant, the applicant will be allowed to make closing remarks
provided time remains in the allotted time.
• City Clerk staff will be keeping track of time and will inform them periodically of the remaining time for
their presentation.
• Those called will be called in the sequence, the order the cards were received prior to this meeting.
• All people will identify themselves by name address, organization if applicable, before beginning their
presentation.
• The planning commission heard the rezoning agenda items and recommendations have been forwarded to
the Mayor and City Council for consideration in this position.
• In addition, the applicant shall not submit material to the Council during the meeting unless requested to
do so.
• All material that you wish to be reviewed by the Council in consideration of the application should be
submitted to the staff of the Department of Community Development to be included in the normal
distribution of packages to the Council.
• When an opponent of rezoning action has made within two years immediately preceding the fling of the
rezoning action being opposed, campaign contributions, aggregated two hundred, fifty dollars or more to
a local government official of the local government which will consider the application, it shall be the
duty of the opponent to file a disclosure with the governing authority of the respective local government
at least five days prior to the planning commission meeting.
• A violation of the relevancy statute constitutes a misdemeanor; therefore if you have contributed two
hundred and fifty dollars or more to a Council Member and you have not filed a disclosure prior to the
planning commission meeting, the City Attorney strongly suggest someone speak on your point of view.
(All zoning agenda items are typed verbatim.)
City Clerk Marchiafava read Agenda Item No. 08-497.
ZM07-07-005NC07-014, Webb Road (No address for this parcel) - To request a Zoning Modification to modify
Condition 2a to modify the site plan (05Z-029) and a 3 part concurrent variance: 1) To reduce the side yard
setback from twenty (20) feet to ten (ten) feet along the east and west property line (Article 8.1.3.C.) 2) To
reduce the rear minimum setback from twenty-five (25) feet to ten (10) feet along the south property line(Article
8.1.3.D.); 3) To reduce the 10 -foot landscape strip along the east, west, and south property lines to allow for a
retaining wall (Article 4.23.1.). (First Reading on February 4, 2008.)
Community Development Director Wilson:
Mayor and Council the Community Development recommendation for this modification is approval for ZM07-
07-005, the site plan modification. Approval of parts one and two of concurrent variance 07-014 and denial of
part three of concurrent variance 07-014. Robyn MacDonald will give us details on this application and then I
will answer questions for you. I will mention to you we have had a request from the applicant to defer this, but
this is a public hearing so let's go on through the public hearing and then consider the deferral or approval as you
wish.
Senior Planner Robyn MacDonald:
Part three we are withdrawing because they no longer need part three. So basically the applicant is requesting
modification of site plan and the subject site is currently undeveloped in zone O -I pursuant to 0529 under the
existing zoning of the Fulton County Board of Commissioner approved Office Institutional Accessory uses at a r
maximum density of twelve thousand, eight hundred, and forty four (12,844) square feet of gross area per acre
zoned. Under the original 2005 rezoning, associative legal description contains three point three four (3.34) acres
permitting a total of forty two thousand and nine hundred (42,900) square feet to be developed. On the screen and
in your packets is a diagram showing the original zoning which was in red of the 2005 rezoning. In December you
approved another rezoning RZ07-018 which is the green colored portion. Within that zoning they encompassed a
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little bit more property, so you can see how it is encroaching in the red portion. Basically they lessened the
60 property to allow for development of their RZ07-18 development. Overall based on the site plan submitted today,
they are going to be proposing twelve thousand eight hundred forty four (12,844). Three point two (3.2) square
feet per acre on two point eighty (2.80) acres for a total of thirty three thousand two hundred eighty six (33,286)
square feet versus the approved of forty two thousand and nine hundred (42,900), although there was a little more
acreage to that original zoning. Now they are proposing three buildings instead of four buildings to the site plan
and there are still remaining the two stories which were approved on the 05 zoning. The revised site plan
indicates one hundred and nine parking spaces; a Zoning Ordinance requires three parking spaces per one
thousand square feet of general office or one hundred spaces for this development so it is basically about nine
spaces over parked. Another issue on the site was a stream buffer located on the site is a spring head and blue line
stream that begins on the southern portion of the site and flows to the north toward Webb Road and the applicants
rezoning 0539 was approved by the Fulton County Board of Commissioners on June 1, 2005. The twenty five
(25) feet undisturbed stream buffer was required for the site. It was stated in the minutes of the meeting that
although the Fulton County stream buffer requiring that having increased to fifty (50) feet with an additional
twenty five (25) foot impervious setback on May 4, 2005 the subject site was grandfathered and only required to
meet the restrictive undisturbed buffer of twenty five (25) feet. The state required the twenty five (25) foot
undisturbed buffer concurrently with the cities fifty (50) foot undisturbed buffer beginning at the point of wrested
vegetation. Here is a diagram showing the general requirement of that. This is required in City Code Chapter 14
Land Development and Environmental Protection section five. A.I.2. The applicant received a stream buffer
variance from the state twenty five (25) foot buffer form the core of engineers on June 29, 2005 to pipe the stream
as well as the permit form the Georgia Environmental Division log which shows protection grants on March 27,
2006. In addition this project has been approved by the Fulton County Soil and Water Conservation District on
February 27, 2007. The applicant submitted a variance 08-005 to be heard by the City of Milton Zoning Appeals
•. on February 19'b as required by City Code Chapter 14 Land Development and Environmental Protection Section
five B. At that meeting the Board of Zoning Appeals approved with a vote 7-0 the variance of conditions as
rm. follows: The pipe and rip rap shall be installed as shown on plan stated 08-6-07, other encroachments are allowed
as shown on plans conditional to Mayor and Council approval of the site plan. Just want to make a statement, the
current site plan, there is a teeny tiny bit of encroachment on this submitted plan but it can be engineered not to
have any encroachment into either the state buffer or the cities buffer and the twenty five (25) impervious, so
basically the site plan that is here really does not need the approval from the BZA (Board of Zoning Appeals)
because right now there is no encroachment into those buffers. Based on the approval of the piping, the stream is
shown on the site plan and basically they are eliminated south of the head wall. Staff has confirmed with the state
EPD (Environmental Protection Division) that the buffer radial shown on the January 28`h site plan are eliminated
based on the approval of the installation of the pipe. Therefore the February 28th site plan shown on page three of
this report reflects the removal of the radial above the head wall which is basically the site plan. The City of
Milton approved the piping of the stream but the applicant is requesting encroaching to the stream buffer
impervious setback is contingent on the Mayor and the City Council, which in this point and time is not needed.
Comments from the City Arborists will go through the different various trees on site. (You have it in the packet
with the site plan). Number one is the twenty six (26) inch pine tree in good health; parking may jeopardize the
integrity of the trees. Number two is a forty one (4 1) inch oak; declining large oak has four to five major branched
failures and some tip dieback. The tree is growing on a slope and storm water is undermining the tree. The life
expectancy of this tree is less than twenty (20) years. The tree is destined for removal due underground detention
and parking. Basically this is where the underground potential will go. Trees three and four, twenty eight (28)
inch poplars, both healthy trees which will be impacted or removed for building and or parking. Number five a
thirty one (3 1) inch poplar is not to be disturbed. Number six is a twenty nine (29) inch poplar; the tree may be
impacted by future road widening or deceleration lanes. All trees that are removed or impacted shall have
�.•■ recompense. As many recompense trees as possible shall be planted on the site. Any remaining recompense not
planted will either be planted on a location determined by the arborist or the cost of the remaining trees plus
installation cost will be contributed to the City Tree fund. The site plan compliance with the future land use
destination and there is minimal impact on the existing, (well there is no impact at this point with the impervious
setback) the surrounding zonings are C-1, C-2 and one of the parcels there is actually a fifteen (15) foot retaining
wall along behind Katy's Car Wash adjacent to one of the property lines. Along the west property line, the stream
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buffer remains as well as the required twenty five (25) foot undisturbed buffer adjacent to residents AG -1 zoning,
so in staffs opinion the proposed modification of the site plan will have a minimal adverse impact on adjacent
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properties, therefore staff recommends approval conditional of the zoning modification ZM07-005 to modify
condition 2A. Regarding the concurrent variances, the applicant has requested three concurrent variances that
Tom (Community Development Director Tom Wilson) went through. The first one to reduce the five yard
setback from twenty (20) feet to ten (10) feet along the east and west property lines and to reduce the minimum
rear setback from twenty five (25) feet to ten (10) feet along the south property line and to reduce the ten (10) foot
landscape strip which has been withdrawn. Regarding and in pursuant to Article 2231, the City of Milton Zoning
Ordinance, it is staff s opinion that the strict application of the side variance setback may be relaxed to do
extraordinary exceptional conditions pertaining to this property due to its topography. Such strict applications
would create an unnecessary hardship for the owner while causing no detriment to the public. Attached are letters
from the adjacent property owners that are affected by the requested reduction of the building setbacks. The
abutting property that is zoned C1, C2 and O -I except for a portion of the western property line which is buffered
by the stream and additional twenty five (25) foot buffer adjacent to AG 1. There is also the fifteen (15) foot high
retaining wall on the subject side abutting the C2 parcel (Katy's Carwash) along the east property line. The
applicant is seeking building setback reduction from twenty to ten. Staff recommends that if the Mayor and City
Council approve the concurrent variance to reduce the building setback, the applicant shall provide additional
planting within the ten (10) foot landscape strip along the south property line and the west property line adjacent
to the property zoned C-1. Therefore staff recommends approval conditional part one and two of VC07-014. In
conclusion I would like to go through the conditions of zoning. Obviously two A would read to the revised site
plan received by the Community Development Department on February 28, 2008 and then 3 B to provide the ten
(10) foot building setback along the east and west property line as part one of the concurrent variance; 3C) to
provide a ten (10) foot building setback along the south property line. Part two of the concurrent variance, in
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addition 3D) to provide a ten (10) foot landscape strip planted to buffer standards along the south property line.
3E) to provide a ten foot landscape strip planted to buffer standards along the west property line adjacent to C1
and putting areas that are disturbed behind building three thousand on the southwest corner of the site. 3F) To
reduce parking to the minimum required space for Article 18.2.1 of the zoning ordinance. 3G) to save trees
numbered one, three, four and five as depicted on the tree location map. If not able to save said trees as
determined by Director of Public Works and Director of Community Development the applicant shall recompense
with six inch caliper trees. 3H) provide a black four board equestrian styled fence adjacent to the wide sidewalk,
between the sidewalk and the development or as approved by the director of Community Development. 31)
Approval of this modification does not guarantee connection to public sewer or sewer capacity. 4A) Dedicate at
least forty five (45) feet of right of way from center line of Webb Road. 413) Provide asphalt overlay along entire
frontage as directed by the Public Works Director for Milton. 4C) provide six foot wide concrete sidewalk along
the entire frontage of the property with a minimum of four and one half (4 %2) foot grass between the sidewalk and
back to curb, install a transverse double row of concrete brick pavers every fifty (50) feet approved by the Public
Works Director for Milton. 4D) Driveway in terms that shall meet the Community Service Policies and
Guidelines. The roads to be constructed to meet such criteria of the approval of the Public Works Director for
Milton. Cl) Site driveway on Webb Road shall be located minimum of three hundred (300) feet from other
driveways or approved Public Works Director for Milton. C2 site driveway on Webb Road to provide a minimum
of forty foot of uninterrupted quelling measured from stop bar behind the crosswalk or as approved by the Public
Works Director for Milton. C3 The proposed driveway on the property to the east on Webb Road shall provide a
minimum of sixty foot of uninterrupted quelling measured from stop bar behind the cross walk or as approved by
the Public Works Director for Milton. 5A) The water quality and detention facility shall utilize earthen
embankments or underground where possible. Wall structures are not encouraged, if wall structures are proposed
they must meet the accessible design of the Department of Community Development.
Mayor Lockwood:
I have a question for staff and our City Attorney. Community Director Wilson you said that the applicant was
requesting a deferral?
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Community Development Director Wilson:
Yes, he asked today.
Mayor Lockwood:
As a Point of Order; will we need to go through public comment and have the applicant come up and speak?
City Clerk Marchiafava:
There is no public comment on this item unless the applicant would like to speak.
Mayor Lockwood:
Is there were any questions from Council for Robyn.
Councilmember Lusk:
I have one question, but it may not be fair without the arborist here. Tree number six, the twenty nine inch poplar,
it said it may be impacted; is there an obligation there for recompense?
Senior Planner Robyn MacDonald:
I believe he wants it to be recompensed, because he is not sure. It could be affected by the deceleration lane but it
would be recompensed.
Councilmember D'Aversa: Robyn, I have a question and I guess it may not be clear to me about the
surrounding property owners. I believe it is the west side of the property, which I guess would be back in this
pow" instance; it would probably be Webb Road. Is that property owner Mr. Morton?
Senior Planner Robyn MacDonald:
That is someone else, but he is not affected by any of these variances. He has the stream buffer in addition to the
twenty five foot required undisturbed buffer, so he is not affected by any of the variances.
Councilmember D'Aversa:
Is that a residence or a business?
Senior Planner Robyn MacDonald:
It is a residence at this point in time and the next lot over is the IQ Academy that was approved for modification.
Mayor Lockwood:
Are there any other questions? With no other questions would the applicant and any one in favor of this
application like to come forward to speak?
Applicant Ken Morton, 14732 Taylor Valley Way, Milton, GA:
Me and my folks Jack and Margie Morton are here also who are long time owners of the property. As I have
come to you before I have always tried to make sure we have our ducks in a row and that we have every detail and
staff has been so great to work with in making sure that cause the site plans change so many times, we have tried
to make sure that the site plan and all the changes that we were ready to present so it would make your job very
easy in getting approval for the simple request that we are asking for. We have had a lot of site plan changes and
I still have to satisfy traffic and Mr. Drake has been wonderful to work with, but I still have some things that I
have to satisfy for him. Mr. Law has a tree; a poplar that his arborist is saying that there is damage to it and
Pm rotting at the base and we still needs to talk more about that. There has been some added additions that I do not
feel comfortable going forward with right now that I still need to work through and so forth, but saying all of that
I would really appreciate if I could defer at this time and come to you next month when I have these issues taken
care of, and we can make this real clean and simple for everyone at that time.
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Mayor Lockwood:
Are there any questions for the applicant?
Councilmember Thurman:
I would just like to ask staff if they saw any reason why we would not want to defer.
Community Development Director Wilson:
I see no reason not to defer.
Motion and Second: Councilmember Thurman moved to defer until April 28, 2008 ZM07-07-005NC07-014,
Webb Road (No address for this parcel) - To request a Zoning Modification to modify Condition 2a to modify the
site plan (05Z-029) and a 3 part concurrent variance: 1) To reduce the side yard setback from twenty (20) feet to
ten (ten) feet along the east and west property line (Article 8.1.3.C.) 2) To reduce the rear minimum setback from
twenty-five (25) feet to ten (10) feet along the south property line (Article 8.1.3.D.); 3) To reduce the 10 -foot
landscape strip along the east, west, and south property lines to allow for a retaining wall (Article 4.23.1.).
Councilmember Lusk seconded the motion.
Discussion on the Motion:
Councilmember Zahner Bailey:
Could we specifically defer until April 28, 2008, to give us sufficient time because our next meeting is less than
thirty days, so the 28th would be sufficient time, so we could be date specific.
Mayor Lockwood:
We have a motion by Councilmember Thurman and he asked if she was ok with that?
Councilmember Thurman
Nodded her approval.
Vote: There was no further Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously.
City Clerk Marchiafava read agenda item No. 08-523
U07-011NC07-017, 13620 Hopewell Road, Monticello Real Estate Invest, LLC, JT Adams — Use Permit for a
Private School to be developed with 5 buildings for a total of 63,400 square feet with a maximum of 325 students
for Kindergarten — 8th graders. The applicant is also requesting the following 5 -part concurrent variance: 1) To
reduce the building setback along the north property line from 100 feet to 85 feet (19.4.40.B.3) 2) To reduce
the 75 -foot buffer and 10 -foot improvement setback to the extent necessary to all the septic field to encroach.
(Article 12H.3.1C.2.) 3) To increase the 20 foot setback from the landscape strip to 500 feet. (12H.3.5.C.1) 4)
To allow parking between the right of way and the building. (Article 12H.3.5.F.3) 5) To reduce parking from
171 spaces to 70 spaces (Article 18.2.1). (First Reading on March 3, 2008.)
Community Development Director Wilson:
Mayor and Council, Mr. J.T. Adams the applicant has abandoned his interest in this property for development of
that school and he has asked for withdrawal without prejudice. It was heard by the planning commission and they
also recommend withdrawal and his recommendation is to allow for that withdrawal.
Mayor Lockwood:
Is there any public comment? rw
City Clerk Marchiafava:
There is no public comment.
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Mayor Lockwood:
Are there any questions from Council to Community Development Director Wilson? (There were none.)
Mayor Lockwood:
Asked for a motion and second for withdrawal of this application.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Tart moved to approve withdrawal without prejudice of UOO11NC07-017
13620 Hopewell Road, Monticello Real Estate Invest, LLC, JT Adams — Use Permit for a Private School to be
developed with 5 buildings for a total of 63,400 square feet with a maximum of 325 students for Kindergarten —
8"' graders. The applicant is also requesting the following 5 -part concurrent variance:
1) To reduce the building setback along the north property line from 100 feet to 85 feet (I 9.4.40.B.3)
2) To reduce the 75 -foot buffer and 10 -foot improvement setback to the extent necessary to all the
septic field to encroach. (Article 12H.3.IC.2.)
3) To increase the 20 foot setback from the landscape strip to 500 feet. (12H.3.5.C.1)
4) To allow parking between the right of way and the building. (Article 12H.3.5.F.3)
5) To reduce parking from 171 spaces to 70 spaces (Article 18.2. 1)
Councilmember D'Aversa seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The motion passed
unanimously.
City Clerk Marchiafava read agenda item No. 08-524.
U08-OOUVC08-001, Land Road (No Address), Celestino Martinez - To obtain a use permit to develop a
landscape business. The applicant is also requesting to following concurrent variance; To allow access from a
local road (Article 19.4.27 Section B.1). (First Reading on March 3, 2008.)
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Community Development Director Wilson:
This applicant has also asked for withdrawal of this petition. The Planning Commission heard this on February
26th and they also recommend withdrawal of this petition and the recommendation from the Community
Development Department is withdrawal of this petition.
Mayor Lockwood:
Asked Council if they had any questions for Community Development Director Wilson.
Community Development Director Wilson:
The applicant is not here, but I think there are some public comments.
Mayor Lockwood:
Do we have any public comment?
Sophia Ribeiro, 3050 Land Road:
My property is across the street from the requirement here. The first thing I would like to tell you is the hardship
that all of the neighbors have endured during this five month process. He asked for the permit before then and
aware that this has been going on for much longer. Based on that we would like to actually deny as opposed to
accepting the withdrawal so that we will not have to go through this again in a couple of months, since it has
already taken five months. As you can see in the property that is there, this is the extent of the damage that has
been done to the property. Ok, this is not my property but I live across the street from it. At all times day and
night eighteen wheeler trucks will come and park across the street from my house and be running. This will start
at nine o'clock in the evening or whatever time they arrive that is what time they stay there. As you can see the
roads across the street is a dirt road. Land road is a dirt road. The eighteen wheelers block the entire street so that
the school bus can not come by. Several complaints have been done by my neighbors and no one has addressed
that. We also have contacted the police on several occasions; there has been a drug bust. Mr. Martinez has open
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this entire space that you can see from the pictures that now it is an attractive space for teenagers to go and park
and do what teenagers do so well and not think to much on it so it has been a hardship. It is not just the noise,
there are also chemicals on the property and we have taken pictures, we have called EPD. The property next to
ours not the one that he is asking now has been used by him previously and EPD was called. There was ureic acid
all over. The five houses on the Land Road are in a well, we all have wells and there is no way to check the
damage that has been done in our water. We can not get the city actually or any city around here to go and pass
our water so you have to understand that we have to be concerned. We all have children and we care about all of
the individuals on the road. We are concerned about the waste management, even if he withdraws; when is this
all going to be taken care of. We were told sixty days. Not long ago there was still a delivery and there is still
people working in there. We can see people coming in and out. We can also get you more pictures if you need
some and I think that after five months of giving the business owner allowance to continue to operate without a
license or permit is enough good will from the city. I think it is time for the city to understand the significance of
all of us on Land Road and give us the peace of mind to not have to go through this again in a couple of months.
If he applies for another business that is not now landscaping it would be something else. I think if the owner
wants to take all of this out by denying you are not doing any damage to him, you are giving us a good will effort
that you are actually caring for us on Land Road. I know there are only five houses but we all have families.
Thank you. Oh I forgot you also have a petition that was signed from all the residents on Land Road. Thank you
City Clerk Marchiafava:
Stated that was distributed to Council.
Mayor Lockwood:
Asked if there were any other public comment.
Don Cunniff, 3050 Land Road:
Stated that he agreed and supported all of the comments given by Doctor Ribeiro.
City Clerk Marchiafava stated that completes public comment.
Motion and Second: Councilmember Tart moved to deny the application U08-00INC08-001 Land Road (No
Address), Celestino Martinez - To obtain a use permit to develop a landscape business. The applicant is also
requesting to following concurrent variance; to allow access from a local road (Article 19.4.27 Section B.1)
Councilmember D'Aversa seconded the motion.
Discussion on the Motion:
Councilmember Thurman:
I would like to ask staff why they are recommending withdrawal rather than denial.
Community Development Director Wilson:
We asked for withdrawal because that is what the applicant asked for and the planning commission also felt that
withdrawal was appropriate. There is certainly no reason not to deny it. Denial does put some sort of burden on
the property owner, which this applicant was not the property owner, but there is certainly no reason not to. All
denying it will do is to prevent a similar application coming forward for twelve months.
Mayor Lockwood:
Asked Community Development Director Wilson to explain the difference in allowing it to be withdrawn versus
denial.
Community Development Director Wilson:
If we allowed it to be withdrawn, he could come back next month and start this process over again seeking a use
permit for a landscape business. If we deny; it would be prohibited for twelve months coming forward with
another application.
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Councilmember Thurman:
It would also address the community concerns with clearing the debris he currently has on the property and when
that will be taken care of.
Community Development Director Wilson:
When this was reviewed by the planning commission, the applicant stated that he was withdrawing his application
for this use and he was not going to pursue this use any further, he needed sixty days at that time to find a
different location. At that time (this was on February 280' and he said there was one other scheduled delivery of
stone that he had already scheduled and it was on its way down here and that would be delivered and after that
there would be no more delivery. He would in the next sixty days find a new location that would be property
zoned for this use. If we deny it tonight, then I would have the opportunity to go tomorrow and issue a notice of
violation and ask him to vacate the property immediately. Give him three days in which to do that, although he
could ask for extended period and I would most likely give him whatever length of time that was reasonable for
him to move the stone off of there to another location. Certainly at the end of this process he is going to have to
return that property to some sort of a vegetative state. I do not mean he has to plant trees, but he has to cover up
and make stable all of the ground that he may have disturbed or will be disturbed as he pulls those rocks in and
out of there.
Councilmember Lusk:
Asked Community Development Director Wilson if he said the applicant was not the owner of the property.
Community Development Director Wilson:
Stated that was correct.
Councilmember Lusk:
Asked what obligation he would have then to clean up the property. Would we have any recourse in going back
to the owner of the property to enforce that?
Community Development Director Wilson:
Stated that certainly at the end of this process, if nobody else cleans it up, the owner is always responsible for his
own property. We would not start with the owner since the owner is not the one who did this damage to the
property, but if the applicant moves away and leaves it in some unsatisfactory condition we would then go to the
owner of the property and ask him or actually demand him clean it up and stabilize the property. OK I made a
mistake he is the owner of the property.
Councilmember Lusk:
Did you mention a sixty day period in this process?
Community Development Director Wilson:
I believe he asked when he was before the planning commission February 28`b and at that time he said he would
vacate the property but he needed sixty days in which to find another location. There is nothing that guarantees
him sixty days and no reason you have to give him sixty days. We can issue a citation at any time and put it in
front of a judge and let him explain to the judge why he could not instantaneously remove all of his rocks from
this property and the judge would do whatever he felt was the right thing to do and what I would say was the right
thing to do is notify him immediately that he needs to vacate this property and give him a reasonable amount of
time to do that. Obviously it can not be done over night. Failure to do that would then result in a citation and the
judge could determine the next course of action.
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Mayor Lockwood:
With the correct information that the applicant is the owner, I am personally comfortable with denying; whereas if
he were not I would not feel comfortable with putting undue pressure on someone else's property.
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Councilmember Zahner Bailey:
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With regards to the chemicals that were noted in the contact to the EPD, I have a question for our City Attorney.
Do we condition as a part of the motion for denial; do we need to condition that this property needs to be taken
back to a vegetative state, and do we also need to state that we want water to be tested for those homes that are on
and served by wells, or is that a natural course as a matter of our staff's follow up to that denial.
City Attorney Jarrard:
What I would recommend, if you are going to deny the withdrawal, go ahead and just deny the action. I am not
sure you are going to be able to condition the denial of anything. I think that in the regulatory and in the
functions, Mr. Wilson's office is going to serve. The other you give before a magistrate judge and you bring me
any issues like that.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey:
I just want to make sure that we are all clear, that, that responsibility will go back to community development and
citizens (depending on how this vote were to go) would be following up with community development with
regards to returning that property to a vegetative state, making sure that it returns to the state that you are
comfortable with through EPD and from a soil testing perspective, and is it reasonable also that community
development would require that land owner who is then operating without business permits etcetera would be
required to do some sort of soil testing where those chemicals were found.
Community Development Director Wilson:
We have no evidence of chemicals on that property. I do have a report that there were chemicals there and I have
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no reason to doubt that there were chemicals there in the past. We did an inspection and found no chemicals and
based on lack of any kind of evidence that it was there; I would not normally demand that he do that; I do not
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have the authority to demand it.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey:
But if there was evidence; that would naturally be a part of community development. Is that correct?
Community Development Director Wilson:
If there was evidence I would have to call EPD, I have no authority to demand anything with him, it is not a
condition of zoning, but I know that they are not there now. Did that answer your question?
Councilmember Zahner Bailey:
Yes, I wanted that clarification obviously for the citizens that were here and those represented by this petition so
that you know that the EPD is a matter of recourse for you and you can also follow up should you have other
evidence not yet presented to the Community Development Department, but as a matter of record wanting to
make sure you knew that would be a potential recourse for you. I would also like to say that the analysis separate
from staff's recommendation for withdrawal; the underlined recommendation that was presented to us is actually
one of denial and I think it is important that the motion that is before this body is supported by the underlined
analysis from staff to recommend denial.
Councilmember D'Aversa:
Also, would you mind adding to your motion a thirty day clean up period? I think we discussed that at a couple
of review sessions, that would be reasonable, we could ask what would be reasonable for someone and since this
has been going on for so many months and there is a danger to children here with this clean up pending any
longer than thirty days; I would like to see if we could require that he has it cleaned up within thirty days.
Community Development Director Wilson:
As the City Attorney mentioned, we are not approving so we have no conditions to attach to a denial, I certainly
hear you that thirty days is a reasonable period of time and what I will do is issue him a notice of violation
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tomorrow and give him three days asking him to write me if he needs additional time and I will not allow time
j beyond sixty days for him to vacate this property. If he has not vacated it in (sorry I meant to say thirty days)
thirty days then I will issue a citation on the thirtieth day and it will be in the courts hands to determine what to do
next.
Councilmember Tart:
I would like to clarify why he put forth the motion to deny and as Councilmember Zahner Bailey pointed out
staff s underlying recommendation was to deny this application and since the application came forward to ask for
a withdrawal, that recommendation has changed, so I want to read to you why I am putting forth the
recommendation to deny this. Staff noted in their recommendation that access form the subject site to a local road
is not permitted within the development standards of article 19.4.27. They also said that they are of the opinion
that access to the subject site form a local road would cause unnecessary detriment to nearby property owners and
that delivery truck traffic would not be conducive to a residential environment and we have heard several
residents come forward and actually express their concern with that tonight, we also have a petition that states
exactly that. Staff recommends denial of the VC08001 lastly staff notes that there is no possible solution to
mitigate access from a local road to the subject site due to its location and recommends denial of U08-001.
Mayor Lockwood:
Stated we have a motion and second to deny this application and asked if there was any further discussion. There
was no further Council discussion.
Vote: The motion passed unanimously.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
City Clerk Marchiafava read agenda item No. 08-521.
Approval of Ordinance Adopting Chapter 17, Public Works, and providing for inclusion and identification
in the Code of Ordinances for the City of Milton, Georgia to be referenced in the future as Chapter 17
(Public Works).
Ordinance No. 08-03-04
Public Works Director Dan Drake:
• This is an ordinance which regulates solid waste collection and litter.
• There was an ordinance approved in 2006 that established how solid waste collection services may be
provided by a private provider within the City of Milton.
• This Chapter 17 provides the regulations of littering, Medical waste handling the ability for the City to
contract for waste hauling services and for the City to charge fees for such services.
• This Ordinance satisfies the Littering Ordinance requirement for the NPDES (National Pollutant
Discharge Elimination System).
Councilmember Zahner Bailey asked if Dan Drake would provide a range of fees associated with this as a
matter of record.
Public Works Director Drake
• There are fines and penalties.
• There is potential for actual jail time.
• This is not set by the City Ordinance but by the state regulations.
• The first offense for littering is a misdemeanor and the fine range is not less than one hundred ($100.00)
and not more than one thousand ($1,000.00) dollars.
• The court can direct the violator to clean up the litter and publish the violators name in the paper.
0 Anyone dumping less the five hundred pounds of waste is also a misdemeanor.
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• If more than five hundred pounds it is a misdemeanor in the first offense and the second offence is a
felony with a fine of up to twenty five thousand ($25,000.00) dollars or a prison sentence of up to two
years.
• Any one caught dumping Bio -Medical or hazardous waste or dumping for commercial purposes is also a
fine of up to twenty five thousand ($25,000.00) dollars or two years prison or both.
Motion and Second: Councilmember Zahner Bailey moved to approve an Ordinance Adopting Chapter 17,
Public Works, and providing for inclusion and identification in the Code of Ordinances for the City of Milton,
Georgia to be referenced in the future as Chapter 17 (Public Works). Councilmember Thurman seconded the
motion.
Discussion on the Motion:
City Attorney Jarrard asked Public Works Director Drake if in regards to the felony that was a state action for
regulating.
Public Works Director Drake said that we do not set any fines; it is set by the state.
Vote: There was no further Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously.
City Clerk Marchiafava read agenda item No 08-522
Approval of an Ordinance Amending Chapter 15, Health and Public Safety, of the Code of Ordinances for
the City of Milton, Georgia. w
Ordinance No. 2008-03-05
Lieutenant Matt Marietta stated that he would like to refer to the Fire Marshall Chad McGiboney.
Captain McGiboney
• The Knox System will help us gain access into all commercial property and the gated communities.
• The primary benefit is for public safety to gain access without causing undue damage to our commercial
properties as well as the gated communities.
• Our current process is one unit being able to go through a gated community at a time.
• The Knox System will override the gate system and allow it to stay open until everything has been
secured and we can leave.
• For the commercial properties it will allow the Fire Department to gain access without having multiple
keys or having to cause damage to gain access.
• Each individual Public Safety unit will have a code that they will have to punch into the key secured
deposit.
• It will allow us to open it and a light will go on inside the apparatus so we do not loose the key.
• Once the key is returned the light will go off.
• For gated communities the gate will stay open.
• If the power goes off the gate automatically is defaulted to open so we can gain access.
• We did not budget for the cost but we have located money in the budget for this.
• It will cost approximately six thousand dollars for the apparatus.
Mayor Lockwood asked if the $6,000.00 was for each unit or the total cost.
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Captain McGiboney said that this would go in all of our Public Safety vehicles and the $6,000.00 was the total
amount. ctrl
Councilmember Thurman asked what the cost would be for each subdivision and commercial building.
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Captain McGiboney said approximately $280.00.
Councilmember Thurman asked if they would have one year in order to put this in place.
Captain McGiboney
• Pending Council's approval, the Ordinance will say that new commercial properties and gated
communities will have one year.
• The key switch for the gate is about $87.00.
• The downfall is, if we loose a key it is fifteen dollars per cylinder and we would have to re -key the
system.
• They are jurisdiction specific so we can not take use our keys for access into other towns businesses.
• As it is now, if we pull up on site we have to hope the code that is currently on the gate is active.
• They codes change pretty regularly.
• It would be a huge asset if homes that are not gated had these because all of the alarms would to off,
etcetera.
Councilmember Thurman asked if someone lost a key they could identify who lost it.
Captain McGiboney said yes, each key is programmed for each individual Public Safety and he would be able to
keep that on the tracking system as to when they open the box and when they close it.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey asked Captain McGiboney if he would speak about the fact that this is an
interchangeable system and the shared services with other jurisdictions.
Captain McGiboney said he had already talked with the Fire Marshall of Alpharetta since we will be sharing
jurisdiction lines with them. We have worked out an agreement where we will have the key for Alpharetta
secured to our Knox Box System as well as they will be sharing ours. It will cut response time for both.
Mayor Lockwood asked Captain McGiboney if he recommended this system as the best system to use.
Captain McGiboney stated that this has been around since 1975 and is used in most of the surrounding
jurisdictions in the Metro area. It is the best out there in his opinion.
Councilmember D'Aversa asked if he had opportunity to speak with some of the commercial business owners
about this system.
Captain McGiboney stated that he had and they were calling and asking about the requirements and when this
was going to take place.
Councilmember Lusk said he had in his business had been installing these boxes for the last thirty years and
realized the benefit of the Knox System. He said $6,000.00 with the added features is phenomenal and he
recommended approval of the Ordinance.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Lusk moved to approve an Ordinance Amending Chapter 15, Health and
Public Safety, of the Code of Ordinances for the City of Milton, Georgia. Councilmember Thurman seconded the
motion. There was no other Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously
NEW BUSINESS
City Clerk Marchiafava read agenda item No. 08-537.
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Approval of a grant application to the Department of Homeland Security for the Assistance to Firefighters
Grant program sponsored by FEMA.
Captain McGiboney
• We are just moving forward with the cascade system.
• We use air systems on our backs and they are forty five minute bottles, but with what we are doing on any
particular scene they may last fifteen to twenty minutes.
• With the limited number of systems we have we have to refill them as quickly as possible because we
may have to be on scene for a couple of hours.
• We do not currently have a system to replenish our air filters.
• The cascade system benefits us as well as our police service.
• The cascade system also has a light system as well, so if we have a long scene or an extraction scene we
can light up the scene for the safety of everyone.
• We have the benefit of this cascade system to keep it in the station.
• If we have a large unit we can bring it to the scene with us on a trailer.
• This is compliant for the entire surrounding jurisdiction to refill their systems as well.
• The cost of the equipment is about $86,000.00.
• The grant is a five percent match so our cost would be about $5,000.00.
Councilmember Thurman asked if this was the same grant we applied for last year.
Captain McGiboney said yes it was but unfortunately we did not get it so we are reapplying.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey asked Captain McGiboney if he could confirm we have the 5% match in our
budget. k
Captain McGiboney said to his knowledge we do.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember D'Aversa moved to approve a grant application to the Department of
Homeland Security for the Assistance to Firefighters Grant program sponsored by FEMA. Councilmember Lusk
seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously.
City Clerk Marchiafava read agenda item No 08-538
Approval of a Resolution to amend Resolution 08-01-08 to adopt the 2008 Zoning and Use Permit, Zoning
Modification, Board of Zoning Appeals and the City of Milton Design Review Board Schedules.
Resolution No. 2008-03-27
Community Development Director Wilson
• These are some schedules changes made to our Design Review Board of Zoning Appeals and the
Planning Commission as a result of changing the Mayor and Council Meeting from Thursday to Monday.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Lusk moved to approve a Resolution to amend Resolution 08-01-08 to adopt
the 2008 Zoning and Use Permit, Zoning Modification, Board of Zoning Appeals and the City of Milton Design
Review Board Schedules. Councilmember Tart seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The
motion passed unanimously.
(Agenda Item No. 08-539) Removed and deferred by Motion and Vote
Approval of a Resolution Amending Resolution No. 08-03-25, a Resolution Appointing Members to the City of
Milton Bike & Pedestrian Path Committee (District 2).
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MAYOR AND COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilmember Tart asked staff the status on the sewer policy.
City Attorney Jarrard stated that they had received a lot of information from staff.
• It is a project we want to make sure we get right the first time.
• We anticipate having some preliminary information back to Council in the next two weeks.
• We will try to give Council some very clear guidance during the work session and have a very clear and
thorough conversation with Council about what we found and our recommendation with respect to
moving forward.
• There are a lot of different things that had to go into this analysis and we needed to be very thorough.
Councilmember Thurman asked if that could take place on April 21'
City Attorney Jarrard
• That would be more than adequate time.
• He hopes to have some information distributed by e-mail or some other avenue before then to give
Council some thoughts of where we are going and to receive their feedback.
Councilmember Tart
• We had a number of new volunteers that took office in January.
• They have not received training on the Ordinances that they are providing recommendations on.
• They have not received Ethics training either.
r`... • Although we are in the process of updating our Ethics Ordinance, he urges staff to provide training for
both of those items in the interim.
• He wanted to know if there were any plans in that regard.
City Attorney Jarrard
• The Board of Zoning Appeals is having a training session and he would attend that training.
• He does not have any feedback for the Ethics Board, but he expects the ancillary to the drafting of the
new code or the working tweaks code; there will be training on that code.
Community Development Director Wilson
• He has plans to meet with the new members of the Planning Commission, the Board of Zoning Appeals
and the Design Review Board to give them some instruction for their next meeting.
• The training tomorrow with the Board of Zoning Appeals is strictly for understanding the regulations
regarding stream buffers and the improvement setback adjacent to stream buffers.
• He plans on having the exact same training for Council sometime in the future.
• If the April 21' work session is not to long, we may do it then.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• There has been dialogue with the Board of Education and particularly at the Elementary School at
Birmingham Highway and Wood Road.
• Our concern was the Board of Education was proceeding with a prototype without making adjustments.
• We are hoping that is not the case and she asked for an update from Community Development Director
Wilson
Community Development Director Wilson
• Recently had a meeting with the Board of Education about this memorandum of understanding permitting
all school projects in the City of Milton.
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• They can meet some of the suggestions from the Design Review Board but not all of them.
• At the April 21St Work Session, he and the Board of Education will present this memorandum of "" r
understanding to the Council and they can explain to Council at that time why they can not meet all of the
recommendations of the Design Review Board and the Overlay Districts.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• Asked if there was currently a site plan that reflects the things they are opposing.
Community Development Director Wilson said yes and he could give Council a copy of that.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• Asked island disturbance beginning before the April 21" work session?
Community Development Director Wilson said they would not issue any permits to the Board of Education
until Council approves the memo of understanding.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• And that would include a review of the site plan they are proposing that incorporates some of those
suggestions from the Design Review Board.
Community Development Director Wilson said yes as well as the Building Plans.
Councilmember D'Aversa OR
• At the Summerhill Elementary School they have on display the old site plans and everything is dated back
to the August to October time frame.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• They have also sent out a new release to all of that schools and that Elementary School is the largest in
Fulton County so there are parents that are citizens of Milton that are now under the impression that that
proto type that is presented is indeed what it is.
• Would suggest a conversation from the Community Development Department to the principal as a matter
of courtesy to say there will be a Work Session on the 21St.
• Then we do not get a lot of calls based on incomplete information.
Councilmember D'Aversa
• Along with the information that was presented, there were some design elements that were culminated
that we had requested.
• They had mentioned four board fencing.
• She had asked them informally to look at the proto type.
• The access from the buses releasing off loading and loading that is going to be facing the Birmingham
side as opposed to the side that is not as accessible.
• The community is interested in some septic field designations and where certain things are going to be
placed.
• This information may have come from her last community meeting
Community Development Director Wilson pqq
• We have just completed the review of the land of service permit or the site plan of that property.
• We will be sending back those comments. °1d
• That is the only site plan that we have for now.
• It is not totally compliant and there are some comments that were sent back to them that they should
comply with.
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• If we display one of these site plans; it will not be totally compliant but it may be closer to the end
product than what they are exhibiting now.
Councilmember D'Aversa
• With regards to the Design Review Board, they have only heard form the BOE in that one meeting, is that
correct.
Community Development Director Wilson stated yes that was correct.
Mayor Lockwood asked Community Development Director Wilson if there would be representatives from the
School board present when the presentation is made to Council.
Community Development Director Wilson stated yes.
Mayor Lockwood said it was his understanding that they were willing to work with different brick colors and
those types of things.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• That is a concern.
• When she spoke with Parson's originally at Summit Hill they were very receptive to a different roof and
divided windows and brick with different mortar color and tree saves.
• Has there been discussion with the Design Review Board to return to the Board of Education to share
with them where they are?
Community Development Director Wilson
• At his last meeting with the School Board they suggested that they were unwilling to go back to the
Design Review Board, so in his opinion it is unlikely they will participate in the next meeting.
• He will provide the same information to the Design Review Board that he is providing to Council.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• The more we can positively influence that design the better end result we might have and a lot can happen
in four or five weeks.
• Another suggestion is; if we could let the Design Review Board know about the 21" of April meeting,
perhaps they would want to be part of that work session, if for nothing else but informational exchange.
Community Development Director Wilson said he would make sure they understand that.
Mayor Lockwood
• From my understanding they do not have to comply with it but out of courtesy and good will they want to
make some of these changes we have talked about.
• Think it is a cost issue and if they can make some changes that does not cost anymore, and then they will
do that.
Councilmember Zahner Bailey
• Had some inquiries about tornado sirens.
pow • Brought this up about a year ago.
• She and Interim City Manager Lagerbloom talked about it and the importance of incorporating it into the
budget.
• With some of the recent storms, the issue rises again with a sense of concern.
• At some point in the near future if we can reassess where we are with identifying other grants or some
sort of funding toward that.
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• Subsequent to the seasoning as relates to demolitions and historic structures, she thinks we have
uncovered the opportunities to enhance the process as it relates to potential demolition and she is very
thankful that we saved ourselves some demolition today and would hope that as a matter of follow up that
we would be working with staff and the Design Review Board to review our processes and make sure that
any demolition that is being proposed, adequately goes to the Design Review Board and have the
opportunity to follow up and if there is a motion from the Design Review Board that we make sure it
returns to them; if that is their motion, and make sure all of the departments are familiar with the
requirements for demolition.
• Make sure we have a check list and everyone is familiar with that check list so we do not have any
unfortunate occurrences that we wish we had identified.
• Will look forward to follow up with that at the work session if not sooner.
• She had asked at an earlier time if a potential citation by the Environmental Protection Division would
have an impact on the variance that is going before the Board of Zoning Appeals in April in regards to the
John Weiland Development, would ask for the record that our City Attorney help ensure that we are
comfortable that if there is anything going on in one area that we are certain that that information is
passed on to the Board of Zoning Appeals.
• A question was posed as to whether or not the steep slopes that have been imposed by that applicant and
from the developer are also in conflict with some of the Northwest Fulton Overlays, the Milton Overlays
and the Crabapple overlay, so separate form the retaining wall which is being constructed; just going back
out on that site it brings to mind the Environmental Protection Division citation and whether or not we are
comfortable with some of the other disturbance. Can we verify that the Environmental Protection
Division citation and whether or not that has impact on the April hearing of the Board of Zoning Appeals.
Can we have the appropriate person look at the hydrology as well as those steep slopes? The issue is not
just the retaining wall. There are some other things that have occurred that are not in compliance with
overlays or earlier site plans. One site plan she saw historically had a detention Swale rather than a
detention facility at the rear. What she saw was not a Swale so we need to look at that. It is not just a
retaining wall that we need to be mindful of.
Mayor Lockwood stated if there were no further Council Reports, we would move on to Staff Reports.
STAFF REPORTS
Captain McGiboney
• Provided an update on the SAFER grant that we applied for last August, which is for the hiring of three
fire fighters to round out our staffing levels.
• Received a favorable review from the Federal Government that ask some questions about whether we
were still interested and if the City Council was aware of the funding match that was required.
• Responded back in the affirmative.
• Also forwarded them the Resolution and hopefully that process are still rolling along.
• It seems to be looking really good.
City Clerk Marchiafava called the next agenda item.
EXECUTIVE SESSION Added by motion and vote
The purpose of the Executive Session is to discuss pending litigation and personnel.
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Lusk moved to adjourn into Executive Session at 7:42 p.m. Councilmember 004
Thurman seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously.
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RECONVENE
Motion and Vote: Councilmember Lusk moved to reconvene the Regular Meeting at 11:58 PM. Councilmember
Tart seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously.
Regular Meeting of the Milton City Council
Monday March 17, 2008, 6:00 PM
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ADJOURNMENT
Motion and Vote: Councilmember D'Aversa moved to adjourn the Regular Meeting. Councilmember Tart
seconded the motion. There was no Council discussion. The motion passed unanimously.
After no further business, the regular meeting of the Milton City Council was adjourned at 12:00 AM.
Date Approved: April 14, 2008
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Je ette R. Marchiafava, City Cler Joe Lockwood Aor
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