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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes CC - 12/20/2010 - 12-20-10 S.C. Mins (Migrated from Optiview)Special Called Work Session of the Milton City Council Monday, December 20, 2010 at 5:30 pm Pagel of 3 This summary is provided as a convenience and service to the public, media, and staff. It is not the intent to transcribe proceedings verbatim. Any reproduction of this summary must include this notice. Public comments are noted and heard by Council, but not quoted. This document includes limited presentation by Council and invited speakers in summary form. This is an official record of the Milton City Council Meeting proceedings. Official Meetings are audio recorded. The Special Called Work Session of the Mayor and Council of the City of Milton was held on December 20, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Mayor Joe Lockwood presiding. Council Members Present: Councilmember Karen Thurman, Councilmember Julie Zahner Bailey, Councilmember Bill Lusk, Councilmember Burt Hewitt, Councilmember Joe Longoria, and Councilmember Alan Tart. Mayor Lockwood: • Work Sessions are an informal setting to update Council on business items. • No votes will be taken during these sessions. • There is one (1) item on our Agenda tonight. • Public comment is allowed that is germane to an Agenda Item. • If you wish to speak you are required to fill out a comment card and turn it into the City Clerk staff. 10— • Public comment will be allowed for a total of 10 minutes per agenda item and no more than 2 minutes per person. ,, • Public comment will be heard at the beginning of each Item. • Once the item is called, no other comment cards will be accepted. Public Comment No Public Comment. City Clerk Gordon read Agenda Item #1. 1. Discussion of Proposed Text Amendments: RZ10-06 — To Amend the City of Milton Zoning Ordinance, Section 64-1820, Landscaping Business, Plant Nursery or Garden Center with Indoor Retail Component. RZ10-08 — To Amend the City of Milton Zoning Ordinance, Section 64-1, Definition for Landscaping Business. (Presented by Lynn Tully, Community Development Director) Robyn MacDonald: !"""" • The city began working on this Ordinance section 64-1820 in 2009 prompted by the increasing number of landscape business application. 'o'" • This proposal is a result of several meetings in 2009 and more recently where the planning commission deliberated on the revised use permit and definition for a landscape business. 9 Within the memo is the existing use permit and definition for a landscape business. Special Called Work Session of the Milton City Council Monday, December 20, 2010 at 5:30 pm Page 2 of 3 • The proposed use permit does not include a plant nursery because it is permitted under AGI agricultural district. • It would determine that there should be no retail component with the landscape business. • The planning commission had discussions of if we should delete landscaping from the agricultural district. • It was their conclusion that they wanted to keep the landscaping business in agricultural but to up the development standards. • What you have before you is the proposed wording and a revised definition. • This has expanded from the original definition. • The city Attorney has reviewed the revised definition and wording. Councilmember Lusk: • In the definition of landscape under the attorney's revision, item number 4 in comments is covered by the overlay district standards, therefore item 5 is unnecessary. • Are we including screening in the setback for walkways, dumpsters, storage areas, or other structures? • With the storage, it is still pretty vague. I have an issue with the "limited quantities". • Who determines what a limited quality is? • On paragraph 10, all landscape shall be contained in appropriate sized containers. How do we define appropriate? • Is there a height limit on the containers? Will it allowed to go higher than the 8ft wall? • Do we have a list of specific list of arterial or collecting streets? • Access may not be from local streets. Robyn MacDonald: • After evaluation, it is not the same. • It is a development standard and is not included in the overlay. • 1 believe we did speak about having them further on within number 5. • Personal vehicles shall be parked and approved in designated locations as well as vehicles, and equipment used. • The business shall be garaged or screened so they cannot be viewed from adjacent properties. • There should be a 50 foot visual buffer. • Unless they get a variance, they will still have to screen the parking and equipment. • We would want the dumpster in the least visual impacted area. • The storage would be relative to the property. • I believe "appropriate" is driven by the size of the operation and is to the discretion of community development. • There is a possibility that we could define a height limit for the containers. • The planning commission's intent is to not see the material at all over the wall. George Ragsdale: • The issue is enforcement, but you guys will increase the material for what needs to be enforced. • Everything will be screened and nothing will be visible. • The size of the facility will be dependent on the size of the property of the owner. Special Called Work Session of the Milton City Council Monday, December 20, 2010 at 5:30 pm Page 3 of 3 • We don't know how big a landscape business will be. • We don't know how bit the applicant's property will be. The City of Attorney recommended we change scope to intensity when talking about the size or the intensity of the business. Item one was intended to speak to how large the overall business is, as opposed to the size of the building. Lynn Tully: • Code enforcement will routinely check the trash to make sure everyone is in compliance. • The code for the height of the container would have to be amended in the text. • Arterials and collectors are defined by the type of traffic it serves. • The intent was to location these landscape businesses to areas where the roadways would support it and not in neighborhoods. Councilmember Lusk: • I would like to see that definition of the arterial road in the ordinance. Carter Lucas: • The CTP has a functional classification map in it where one is recommended by GDOT and one that was evaluated by the CTP and another that we adopted through GIS. pop,.. • They all vary slightly in their numbers. • From our standpoint, there is a vehicle count per day between 4K and l OK a day. WWW4 Councilmember Tart: • We have denied businesses from doing this previously. Why is that changing now? • I have concerns that we are straying from the AG1 and is becoming more businesslike. • There were differences between the planning commission and the attorney on whether number one and number three were contradictory. Lynn Tully: • It was promoted by the fact that we were getting more use permits. After no further discussion, the Work Session adjourned at 6:12 p.m. Date Approved: January 20, 2010 P"M � MIa A // M — Sudie AM Go don, Cityerk NWAO ? r- C Joe Lockwood, M or